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I take umbrage with the very core of the idea, "The PS3 is Failing". So although there is truth to the various issues the PS3 has, the list is a absolute crap. Isn't the PS3 still selling as good or better than the 360 year over year? Is it in danger of being pulled from the market? Are devs no longer making games for it? Sigh....



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Barozi said:
Swtchmob said:
xbox 360 has the same amount of SKUs
Pro
Arcade
Elite

now the ps3 has just 2 the 160 and the 80gig

PS3 had 7 different SKUs, the 360 had 4

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox360

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Playstation_3

I guess your forgetting the ~9 bundles that Microsoft had for Europe this holiday.



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Fail.

The PS3 has by far the best games library.



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twesterm said:

Numbers 1, 2, 6, 9, and 10 are plausible but the others are either really pushing it or just not that much of a problem anymore (and even #1 is pushing it).

Maybe if the author had made this article two years ago when it was still clever it might be interesting but now it just looks like he's fishing for page hits.

 

 

Number 1 is the most important.  Now people who had PS2s and bought them for GTA 4 or Final Fantasy can just get a Xbox 360 for a lot less money.  And they can play on live with their Xbox friends if that's the kind they have.

Obviously, they could get the PS3 for those games as well, and if they have PS3 fiends that makes more sense.  But allowing people to move to the Xbox 360 and take the PS3's best exclusives and put them multiplat is absolutely huge.

If the PS3 didn't lose so many exclusives, it would have the generally regarded best library right now.  But as it is, the Xbox 360 seems to still be regarded as having the best library.  And Final Fantasy 13 won't give Sony any edge since the 360 will be getting the same game.



Mirson said:

The PS3 is trailing at a distant third, behind the Xbox 360 and well behind the Wii. We’ve gathered out top ten reasons the PlayStation 3 is failing at the moment.

10: Too many and confusing SKUs.


Since the PS3 was released in 2006, there have been seven official SKUs in production, with differences in everything from the amount of USB ports, to backwards compatibility, to WiFi, to flash card readers and even Super Audio CD support. With so many SKUs, it’s no surprise that gamers are confused.

And those who decide to buy a PS3, spend a long time figuring out what to get, delaying their purchase, and in some cases, just give up because of the possibility of Sony releasing yet another SKU. Luckily for hopeful PS3 owners, there are currently only two SKUs in production; the 80 GB and the 160 GB versions, both with two USB ports, no backwards compatibility, WiFi and… that’s it.

9: Controller SNAFU

Remember the first PS3 controller, the boomerang? Remember the Sixaxis, with bad motion controls on all six axis, and no rumble? It took Sony three tries to make up their minds on a controller; the Dualshock 3, which is now the standard controller for the console.

The problem is that it was released a year and a half after the launch of the console itself. This is not entirely a hardware issue, but a testament to the fact that Sony has a hard time making up their minds, like with the seven SKUs that have been in production.

8: Sony arrogance


The massive success of the PS2 turned Sony’s confidence into sheer arrogance, when initially relying on “brand loyalty” to sell the PS3, despite being inferior, more expensive and lacking decent “killer-app” games well into the second year after it was released. Sony’s Ken Kutaragi said the $600 price tag was “probably too cheap” adding that “people will, without question, purchase it”. We think otherwise.

Sony’s spent more time pushing the Blu-ray format, thinking that the gaming side will take care of itself simply because the console was named “PlayStation”. They were thereby fighting a war on two sides — with Microsoft and with Toshiba — further driving the focus away from where it should have been: making games and supporting developers.

7: A developer’s bag of hurt


There’s no shortage of developer rants against the PS3, it’s a very difficult system to work make games for. Valve’s Gabe Newell called the PS3 a “total disaster”. Midway Games’ Shaun Himmerick said it was a “huge pain in the ass”, and even Sony’s own Kaz “Riiidge Raaacer” Hirai said it was “hard to program for”.

However, this isn’t new to Sony; the PS2 was likewise difficult to develop on, and instead of learning from those mistakes, Sony created an even more complicated platform for the PS3. It doesn’t matter how powerful it is, if the software libraries, the compilers and tools are not sufficient, then it’s useless. You can have a 1000 HP sports car, but it’s no good to you if it doesn’t have a set of good wheels, a decent transmission and so on.

6: (Very) Expensive manufacturing costs


The PS3’s high price is a result of the complicated and high end hardware Sony uses in the PS3. At launch, they were losing hundreds of dollars for every console sold, and today, even after several updated and new, cheaper components, Sony still loses a big sum of money for every console they sell.

Some analysts have even suggested that Sony will continue to lose money on the PS3 during its entire lifetime, which is especially problematic since Sony expects the PS3 to last at least another 5 years.

5: Still no strong game library

Looking at the NPD console attach ratio (i.e. how many games per console are sold), the PS3 is severely lacking behind, having only 4.6 games sold per system, where as the Xbox 360 has 7.5 games sold per system.

This only boils down to the PS3s inferior game library; it not only has a lot less key first party titles than its competitor, but the PS3 ports of multi-platform titles are almost always inferior in one way or another, despite developers having several years to work with the PS3 now.

4: Weak ports


It’s been common knowledge that when games are released on several systems, the PS3 version is usually the inferior one. Not only are they inferior, they’re usually released later than the Xbox 360 counterparts. Madden 08 for instance, ran at 30 fps as opposed to 60 fps on the Xbox 360. Another example, Lost Planet, was not only released almost a year later on the PS3, but ran at a very sluggish frame rate and was missing a lot of the eye candy.

A major reason for the bad ports is simply the difficulty working with the system. Developer Valve for instance, has given up on porting games (like The Orange Box) to the PS3 because it’s simply too difficult and expensive, and instead has left that to EA. EA ported The Orange Box to the PS3, where it was delayed and had to undergo several patches before it was playable at a decent level.

3: “Killer-apps”: too few, too late


One of the most critically acclaimed PS3 games, Metal Gear Solid 4, was released 18 months after the launch of the PS3. Killzone 2, another critically acclaimed title, was released almost two and a half years after the PS3 launched. Same goes for Little Big Planet: 2 years.

It’s far too obvious that it takes a lot more resources, time and money to make a decent PS3 game, as opposed to a decent Xbox 360 game, even for first party developers. It doesn’t make it easier for Sony with the fact that Sony is losing more and more exclusives to the Xbox 360, and, in some cases, the PC as well.

2: Still the most expensive console


The PS3 started by retailing at 500 and 600 dollars, way more expensive than the competition, and was criticized by everyone except the hardest of the hardcore PlayStation fans. Currently the two SKUs cost 399 and 499, while Microsoft has a 199, 299 and 399 Xbox 360 model.

This gives the Xbox 360 — the main competitor to the PS3 — a big advantage when it comes to first time console buyers. Most of them are neither Xbox nor PlayStation fans, they’re getting into the console wars this console generation. If you spend $400 on a console and buy the wrong one, it’s going to hurt a lot more than if you spend 200 and buy the wrong one.

1: Loss of exclusive titles


A game console is defined by its games, or rather, the games exclusive to that console. Over the years, the PS3s bad sales and steep developing costs has cost Sony several titles that were before exclusive to the platform, titles like Grand Theft Auto 4, Assassin’s Creed, Virtua Fighter 5, Devil May Cry 4 and Resident Evil 5, which will be released shortly on both the PS3 and Xbox 360. Not to mention the highly anticipated Final Fantasy XIII, which should hit the stores later this year.

Had Sony managed to keep only a few of these titles exclusive to the PS3, like Grand Theft Auto 4, the current console battle would have looked a lot different. Instead, Sony gambled on Blu-ray to drive the sales of the PS3, hoping to repeat what they did with the PS2 and the DVD drive. The PS2 however, had a ton of great games, many of which where exclusive to the platform.

http://www.digitalbattle.com/2009/03/08/top-10-reasons-the-ps3-is-failing/

 

 

Ok i am gonna enjoy this

 

1. Same with Xbox 360 Arcade, Xbox 360 Elite...

 

2. Boomerang controller was never official PS3 controller, please learn some facts.

 

3. Well, Sony is not arrogant anymore. You would be arrogant to if you won 2 generations in the row and bet the first company to sell over 100 million consoles.

 

4.Just because some lazy ex-microsoft employees dont wanna work a little harder doesn't mean PS3 is failing. One of COD4 developers said PS3 is not hard to develop at all.

 

5.Well, its not so expensive anymore.

 

6.360 was launched 1 year before PS3 ( 2 years before in EU ) and you expect PS3 to have stronger game library? C'mon use your small brain.

 

7.There are some ports who look better on PS3 as well, and how come there is no game like Killzone 2 and Uncharted on 360? And the reason why 360 has some better ports because games were developed on 360 first and than later ported on PS3. And on some graphic comparisons the RGB range on the PS3 was set to ''LIMITED'' instead of ''FULL''

 

8.Lots of people agreed that PS3 had the best line-up in 2008, and there are even better games coming out in 2009.

 

9.360 still costs more if you count all the equipment you need.

 

10.Say hello to Bioshock, Lost Planet, Saints Row 2, Just Cause 2, Ace Combat 6, Overlord, GRAW 2 and many many others exclusives 360 LOST.



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Even as a Nintendo fanboy, this thread is so full of anti-SONY fail. Almost of the reasons the article listed either doesn't apply anymore or is very contextual. And any of you agree with with this is either just uninformed or you aren't even gamers. That's the biggest problem with this generation. Hardcore gamers are dying out as the market is getting bigger and bigger. It gets flooded with more and more casuals and worst of all anti-gamers (the haters that worship the hate and not appreciate the love of gaming).



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Jordahn said:
Even as a Nintendo fanboy, this thread is so full of anti-SONY fail. Almost of the reasons the article listed either doesn't apply anymore or is very contextual. And any of you agree with with this is either just uninformed or you aren't even gamers. That's the biggest problem with this generation. Hardcore gamers are dying out as the market is getting bigger and bigger. It gets flooded with more and more casuals and worst of all anti-gamers (the haters that worship the hate and not appreciate the love of gaming).

 

 

Whats your problem ??!! i lean towards  being a Sony fanboy , and i still see nothing wrong with the thread !

dont be a hater if the truth hurts !