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Kasz216 on 09 March 2009
TRios_Zen said:
WiiStation360 said:
I don't trust either number.

Both Live and PSN numbers are padded with people who have multiple or unused accounts. Sony counts PSN forum ids and MS counts Windows Live ids as XBox members.

Any PR/Marketing announcement should always be taken with a grain of salt, I agree with you there.

IN this case though, MS has stated these are active user accounts (the methods of thier identifying what is "active" is still ambiguous) where as Sony seems content in just giving a number (with no real explanation of what that number entails).

 

Microsoft can track everything your doing when your on live.

 



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Kasz216 on 09 March 2009
badgenome said:
Euphoria14 said:
badgenome said:
perpride said:
PSN is free...why is it so hard to believe it would surpass live members?

It isn't. However, the implication behind Sony's claims is hard to swallow when creations of new PSN accounts are outpacing PS3 sales.

 

Can't you make a PSN account on a PSP? That is like another 45M potential accounts there right?

Yes. Plus there's a lot of dupe accounts thanks to stupid things like the North American Killzone 2 demo debacle and this situation where OutRun Online Arcade is to be released only on the European PSN. Plus forum members are counted, and this undoubtedly includes thousands of people who just went to troll Killzone 2. So I think PSN numbers don't really mean the same thing as Xbox Live numbers at all.

Oh yeah.  That is true isn't it.  Lots of people on these boards made an extra account or two to get at demos faster.

 



deathgod33 on 09 March 2009

doesnt matter at all if psn has passed xbl yet or not because it will happen eventually since it's free.



 

 

 

 

monlosez on 09 March 2009

I bet Wii have like about 400K active online users. Most of them don't know what internet is.



ymeaga1n on 09 March 2009
perpride said:
badgenome said:
Euphoria14 said:
badgenome said:
perpride said:
PSN is free...why is it so hard to believe it would surpass live members?

It isn't. However, the implication behind Sony's claims is hard to swallow when creations of new PSN accounts are outpacing PS3 sales.

 

Can't you make a PSN account on a PSP? That is like another 45M potential accounts there right?

Yes. Plus there's a lot of dupe accounts thanks to stupid things like the North American Killzone 2 demo debacle and this situation where OutRun Online Arcade is to be released only on the European PSN. Plus forum members are counted, and this undoubtedly includes thousands of people who just went to troll Killzone 2. So I think PSN numbers don't really mean the same thing as Xbox Live numbers at all.

No, they do not...and its interesting to see that you understand this but the idiots at MS don't seem to. This report should not be taken as the number PSN users as compared to Live users... I have 4 PSN accounts! The number of PSN accounts was bound to become larger than Live accounts for two reasons:

1 - PSN is free.

2 - PSN is accessible from the Internet and PSP.

Which one of those two reasons explains why you have 4 PSN accounts?

 




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Bullet100000 on 09 March 2009

@Gotcha just the way its written I guess.



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1337 Gamer on 09 March 2009

wow this is the second post ive seen with this. Though this one has alot more replies so i assume its the origional. Anyways M$ shouldnt worry about it



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Dgc1808 on 10 March 2009

3 of those PSN accounts are mine



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heruamon on 10 March 2009

ROFLOL...yeah but how much money are we talking about PSN making, compared to XBL...lol



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Jo21 on 10 March 2009
NJ5 said:
Megadude said:

17 million XBL members they say, but they never mention how many are gold subscribers, so there can be plenty of dupe accounts for XBL. As mentioned before PSN is free and it's not just possible but probable that the online gaming userbase is gaining ground on the Gold subscribers absolutely.

They did say that the majority of Xbox Live members are gold accounts, and then this article popped up:

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=209037

56% according to some leaked document.

 

 

56% its hardly a majority.