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Ail on 09 March 2009
Viper1 said:
amp316 said:
itune2af said:
Even with decent reviews average marketing the game should sell a million.. anything better and it should easily be in the 2mil category.

so yeah, COD:WaW will be overtaken.

and am surprised people still use statements like "Fps don't sell on wii. They really dontl"

Funny.

 

Yes. It's surprising that some people state facts.  What FPS on the Wii has been a huge seller?  There hasn't been one.  The biggest has been Red Steel and that barely sold 1 million copies.

Funny. 

Well, let's start by getting a GOOD first person shooter on the system and then consider the sales.   Oh look, we get a pretty decent one with CoD:WaW and it blows the doors off all sales expectations from the publisher, retail and analysts.

Now we're getting a game with far more hype, a bigger marketing budget, better mulitplayer and possibly a better single player experience as well.  How in the world can you expect it to sell significantly less than CoD:WaW?

 

You're expecting Sega to significantly advertise on TV ? Because that seems to be what finally gave CoD:WaW Wii a lift and maybe I watch the wrong channels but aside from Mario and Sonic at the Olympics I haven't seen many Sega TV commercials....

 



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Viper1 on 09 March 2009
amp316 said:
Also, no one has played the Conduit and doesn't know if it's any good or not.

ot true.  I know a few people that have played portions of it.   Both publicly at events like Comic-Con and privately for the media.

 

MontanaHatchet said:
Viper1 said:

Well, let's start by getting a GOOD first person shooter on the system and then consider the sales.   Oh look, we get a pretty decent one with CoD:WaW and it blows the doors off all sales expectations from the publisher, retail and analysts.

Now we're getting a game with far more hype, a bigger marketing budget, better mulitplayer and possibly a better single player experience as well.  How in the world can you expect it to sell significantly less than CoD:WaW?

 

So all of a sudden World at War is just "decent," while a game none of us have played yet will be good? For those of you quoting Call of Duty 3 on the Wii, the Call of Duty series wasn't nearly as big at that point. Comparably, the game only sold somewhere in the 2-3 million range (can't be bothered to check it right now) on the 360. Now that Call of Duty is an incredibly mainstream series, pushing the Activision juggernaut along with Guitar Hero, World at War's success on the Wii shouldn't be all that surprising. Not many people expected it, sure, but now that it's here no one should be marveling at the success of the game.

As anyone would be quick to point out, The Conduit's hype so far can only be determined by looking at internet hype, which still isn't that enormous anyways. I could list a bunch of games with little internet hype outselling games praising across every inch of our beloved interwebs, but I'm much too lazy at the moment. I don't really know, so I'm not making any predictions. I'm just saying that it's not as basic as people are trying to make it out to be.

Ahh, it doesn't matter to me much anyways. One company has been supporting the Wii since launch and brought it several titles, quality or not. Another's most notable releases on the Wii include such hits as Ben 10: Protector of Earth and Harvey Birdman: Attorney at Law. So I don't have all of High Voltage's pretentious quotes saved, and I generally try to avoid reading them too much.

 

Retail support.   That's what you allude to and what I just noted in my previous posts edit.   Retail support is what is shows that sales differential you are pointing out.  Retail is already more behind The Conduit than they were for CoD:WaW.   I'm actually not laying much stock in the Internet hype at all.   I'm putting stock in the publisher and retail hype.   It's far bigger for The Conduit than it was for the Wii iteration of CoD:WaW.  Bigger such that the advantage of being a well established franchise (despite not one known for quality or high sales on Nintnedo consoles - if not outright getting passed over) is lost.

The Conduit will outsell CoD:WaW on Wii. 

By the way, why are you pointing out HVS's licensed works?  You know, the titles they don't choose to create, don't choose their budget, don't choose the games content or direction, etc...?



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Exblackman on 09 March 2009
Ail said:
Viper1 said:
amp316 said:
itune2af said:
Even with decent reviews average marketing the game should sell a million.. anything better and it should easily be in the 2mil category.

so yeah, COD:WaW will be overtaken.

and am surprised people still use statements like "Fps don't sell on wii. They really dontl"

Funny.

 

Yes. It's surprising that some people state facts.  What FPS on the Wii has been a huge seller?  There hasn't been one.  The biggest has been Red Steel and that barely sold 1 million copies.

Funny. 

Well, let's start by getting a GOOD first person shooter on the system and then consider the sales.   Oh look, we get a pretty decent one with CoD:WaW and it blows the doors off all sales expectations from the publisher, retail and analysts.

Now we're getting a game with far more hype, a bigger marketing budget, better mulitplayer and possibly a better single player experience as well.  How in the world can you expect it to sell significantly less than CoD:WaW?

 

You're expecting Sega to significantly advertise on TV ? Because that seems to be what finally gave CoD:WaW Wii a lift and maybe I watch the wrong channels but aside from Mario and Sonic at the Olympics I haven't seen many Sega TV commercials....

 

Sega already shown us what they can do with advertising with House of the Dead and Madworld with lots ads  on tv.If you didn't see them then you don't watch the target age group channels such as NFL Network,Spike TV , G4TV and Adult Swim which all have shown commericials of the above mention games.

This on American tv so it's not true if your european.



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Ail on 09 March 2009
Exblackman said:
Ail said:
Viper1 said:
amp316 said:
itune2af said:
Even with decent reviews average marketing the game should sell a million.. anything better and it should easily be in the 2mil category.

so yeah, COD:WaW will be overtaken.

and am surprised people still use statements like "Fps don't sell on wii. They really dontl"

Funny.

 

Yes. It's surprising that some people state facts.  What FPS on the Wii has been a huge seller?  There hasn't been one.  The biggest has been Red Steel and that barely sold 1 million copies.

Funny. 

Well, let's start by getting a GOOD first person shooter on the system and then consider the sales.   Oh look, we get a pretty decent one with CoD:WaW and it blows the doors off all sales expectations from the publisher, retail and analysts.

Now we're getting a game with far more hype, a bigger marketing budget, better mulitplayer and possibly a better single player experience as well.  How in the world can you expect it to sell significantly less than CoD:WaW?

 

You're expecting Sega to significantly advertise on TV ? Because that seems to be what finally gave CoD:WaW Wii a lift and maybe I watch the wrong channels but aside from Mario and Sonic at the Olympics I haven't seen many Sega TV commercials....

 

Sega already shown us what they can do with advertising with House of the Dead and Madworld with lots ads  on tv.If you didn't see them then you don't watch the target age group channels such as NFL Network,Spike TV , G4TV and Adult Swim which all have shown commericials of the above mention games.

This on American tv so it's not true if your european.

Yeah I watch SCiFI and TNT mainly and I see games commercials but never any for Sega...

 



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amp316 on 09 March 2009

@ Viper Why don't you point out some of the excellent games that High Voltage has developed. I'm interested in hearing your list.



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Viper1 on 09 March 2009
Ail said:
Viper1 said:
amp316 said:
itune2af said:
Even with decent reviews average marketing the game should sell a million.. anything better and it should easily be in the 2mil category.

so yeah, COD:WaW will be overtaken.

and am surprised people still use statements like "Fps don't sell on wii. They really dontl"

Funny.

 

Yes. It's surprising that some people state facts.  What FPS on the Wii has been a huge seller?  There hasn't been one.  The biggest has been Red Steel and that barely sold 1 million copies.

Funny. 

Well, let's start by getting a GOOD first person shooter on the system and then consider the sales.   Oh look, we get a pretty decent one with CoD:WaW and it blows the doors off all sales expectations from the publisher, retail and analysts.

Now we're getting a game with far more hype, a bigger marketing budget, better mulitplayer and possibly a better single player experience as well.  How in the world can you expect it to sell significantly less than CoD:WaW?

 

You're expecting Sega to significantly advertise on TV ? Because that seems to be what finally gave CoD:WaW Wii a lift and maybe I watch the wrong channels but aside from Mario and Sonic at the Olympics I haven't seen many Sega TV commercials....

 

That's not the only thing that gave CoD:WaW on Wii a lifft.  The sales jump came about because retailers ordered significantly more product.  The game always sold for the first several weeks but was horribly supplied for the first several weeks to.   They finally woke up to the demand and ordered much more product and at the same time the TV campaign launched.

Sega has allocated a much larger marketing budget for The Conduit than any other their previous Wii titles except perhaps Mario and Sonic.  You will see commercials, you will see retailer marketing, you will see print and online media ads, etc...

 

 



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Hyperion on 09 March 2009

People seriously think Conduit won't outsell WaW?
Right.



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amp316 on 09 March 2009
Hyperion said:
People seriously think Conduit won't outsell WaW?
Right.

 

Well, lets see.  CoD: WaW has sold almost a million copies on the Wii already.  Do you expect it to stop selling today or something?

How many copies do you expect the Conduit to sell? 



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shakarak on 09 March 2009

Please Sega has killer advertising in comparison to other game publishers. Do you guys remember the six flag sonic and the secret ring commercials. Sega knows that marketing a game is what sells it (just look at the mediocre Sonic and the Secret Rings sales).


This games going to bring down the stereotypical Wii cant have a strong first week kind of thinking. I expect first week sales worldwide over over 300k with legs to die for. This games going to be marketed, critically acclaimed, and it's entering a genre wii owners are starving for.

I honestly think this games sales will be in the realm of Metroid Prime 3's. That one was marketed, critically acclaimed, and launched on a smaller userbase.



MontanaHatchet on 09 March 2009
shakarak said:

Please Sega has killer advertising in comparison to other game publishers. Do you guys remember the six flag sonic and the secret ring commercials. Sega knows that marketing a game is what sells it (just look at the mediocre Sonic and the Secret Rings sales).


This games going to bring down the stereotypical Wii cant have a strong first week kind of thinking. I expect first week sales worldwide over over 300k with legs to die for. This games going to be marketed, critically acclaimed, and it's entering a genre wii owners are starving for.

I honestly think this games sales will be in the realm of Metroid Prime 3's. That one was marketed, critically acclaimed, and launched on a smaller userbase.

Yup, The Conduit is really going to prove that a Wii game can have a big launch with first week sales of 300k. Nevermind the 2.7 million launch for Brawl (one of the highest this generation), the 1.6 million for Wii Fit, or the 1.1 million for Super Mario Galaxy. And we don't know yet if it will be critically acclaimed so will people stop acting like it's already been determined? Besides, if this game sells around the same as Metroid Prime 3, that would truly be a disappointment.