FFXIII
1.5 - 1.8 million (with 4 million userbase) 1st week
2.3 - 2.5 million LTD
125k PS3
170k with bundle
200k with price cut
250k with price cut and bundle
I think FF Versus XIII will have almost same number as FFXIII.
Gilgamesh said:
According to VG Chartz the highest selling Dragon Quest game is Dragon Quest VIII, and it sold 4.69 worlwide or 3.62 in Japan alone, and had a huge first week of 2.2 million and this is out of 2 days. There was 17 million PS2's already sold so thats a attach ratio of about 1 in 8 PS2 owners in Japan bought DQVIII first week. The PS2 also went and sold 125K that week. The closest Dragon Quest game that came close to DQVIII is DQ VI for the SNES and it sold 3.19 million in Japan only, and it had 1.5 million first week. So it's still a huge game in Japan but obviously Final Fantasy is bigger. |
Final Fantasy isn't as big as dragon quest is in Japan, numbers don't lie.
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Square | 3,629,271 | ||
| 2 | |
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Square | 3,276,026 | ||
| 3 | |
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Square | 2,776,215 | ||
| 4 |  |
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Square | 2,734,784 | ||
| 5 |  |
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Square | 2,546,398 |
| 1 | |
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Enix | 4,100,608 | ||
| 2 | |
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Enix | 3,609,295 | ||
| 3 | |
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Enix | 3,187,222 | ||
| 4 |  |
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Enix | 3,027,563 | ||
| 5 | |
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Enix |
2,780,942
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Sometimes numbers do lie, I know. I will trust these numbers and say DQ is bigger than FF in Japan, but both are huge regardless.
Do you have the year each was released handy?
I suppose I could look it up but if you have all the info in one place...
Dragon Quest has been constantly outselling Final Fantasy since .. well, since both series have been created. DQIX will probably end up selling twice more than FFXIII in Japan.
FaRmLaNd said:
Final Fantasy isn't as big as dragon quest is in Japan, numbers don't lie.
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Damn I knew I forgot VII (I tried searching for it but it wouldn't come up in the database, then I realized I had to filter it to Japan). Alright let's do the numbers for it, Dragon Quest VII sold 4.12 million LTD in Japan and 1.8 million first week for Japan. There was 17 million PS2's out at the time so thats an attach ratio of 1 in 9 PS owners bought DQVII first week. Oddly enough it didn't seem to move very many consoles at all, it peaked at 52K the week after it was released?.
Now one more (I might do the rest later but I have to leave now), at the time Dragon Quest VI was realeased there was about 15 million SNES sold in Japan. It sold 1.5 million first week, that's an attach ratio of about 1 in 10 SNES owners bought it first week, and the game went and sold 3.19 million LTD in Japan. The hardware sales had a small jump but it's hard to say how much of an influence on sales DQVI was because it around the holidays.
It seems as though Final Fantasy is the fastest selling game in Japan and has a much higher attach ratio, but Dragon Quest sells the most LTD for Japan.
Yeah. Final fantasy's hardware bumps and attach ratios are very impressive, but at the end of the day the only number a developer cares about are the actual sales.
FF sells more hardware than DQ does?
Interesting.
Both great series but FF has the winner card in the west.
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2 million i actually think would be considered a disapointment sales wise when it comes to Japan.
Gilgamesh said:
Damn I knew I forgot VII (I tried searching for it but it wouldn't come up in the database, then I realized I had to filter it to Japan). Alright let's do the numbers for it, Dragon Quest VII sold 4.12 million LTD in Japan and 1.8 million first week for Japan. There was 17 million PS2's out at the time so thats an attach ratio of 1 in 9 PS owners bought DQVII first week. Oddly enough it didn't seem to move very many consoles at all, it peaked at 52K the week after it was released?. Now one more (I might do the rest later but I have to leave now), at the time Dragon Quest VI was realeased there was about 15 million SNES sold in Japan. It sold 1.5 million first week, that's an attach ratio of about 1 in 10 SNES owners bought it first week, and the game went and sold 3.19 million LTD in Japan. The hardware sales had a small jump but it's hard to say how much of an influence on sales DQVI was because it around the holidays. It seems as though Final Fantasy is the fastest selling game in Japan and has a much higher attach ratio, but Dragon Quest sells the most LTD for Japan. |
When you said a "much high attach rate", I think you might have meant "much higher first week attach rate" since higher LTD sales would mean higher attach rate.
Also, DQ games usually have a much better hold for the second week sale.
Final Fantasy VII 01/31/97
Week 1 2,025,834
Week 2 328,209
Final Fantasy VIII 02/11/99
Week 1 2,592,405
Week 2 280,589
Final Fantasy IX 07/07/00
Week 1 2,031,207
Week 2 341,273
Dragon Quest VII 08/26/00
Week 1 1,821,450
Week 2 1,167,184
Final Fantasy X 07/19/01
Week 1 1,906,152
Week 2 254,290
Dragon Quest VIII 11/27/04
Week 1 2,267,827
Week 2 549,813
Final Fantasy XII 03/16/06
Week 1 1,819,872
Week 2 242,040
On topic, I do think FF XIII would open very close to the number you predicted but I don't think it will sell much more than 2.5 million copies.
MikeB predicts that the PS3 will sell about 140 million units by the end of 2016 and triple the amount of 360s in the long run.
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