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And yes, there is a difference between 1080i and 1080p. Don't believe me, then go to the store and watch one of the Blu-Ray movies running on a display at 1080p, and then go watch one of the TV's that can only do 1080i. I promise if you don't see a difference you are blind.



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akuma587 said:
And yes, there is a difference between 1080i and 1080p. Don't believe me, then go to the store and watch one of the Blu-Ray movies running on a display at 1080p, and then go watch one of the TV's that can only do 1080i. I promise if you don't see a difference you are blind.

See, the problem is you are thinking that sets labled as 1080i have a resolution of 1080i. What is almost always the case is that these sets accept 1080i signals, but only have a 720ish resolution - hence why you see a difference.

1080i/60 is the same thing as 1080p/30, only interlaced. A decent TV with a deinterlacer will convert the 1080i source to 1080p, thus any difference you see is in your head.



Leo-j said: If a dvd for a pc game holds what? Crysis at 3000p or something, why in the world cant a blu-ray disc do the same?

ssj12 said: Player specific decoders are nothing more than specialized GPUs. Gran Turismo is the trust driving simulator of them all. 

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akuma587 said:
And yes, there is a difference between 1080i and 1080p. Don't believe me, then go to the store and watch one of the Blu-Ray movies running on a display at 1080p, and then go watch one of the TV's that can only do 1080i. I promise if you don't see a difference you are blind.

I guess it's just fitting that a Sony fanboy would reply to this:

http://www.hometheatermag.com/gearworks/1106gear/

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=698612

So, according to you, everyone who has an inkling of a clue regarding the 1080i vs 1080p movie issue are blind (including recognized experts in the field and forums dedicated to AV).

Of course Sony fanboys will obviously always see the "immediately apparent" difference as clear as night and day.

Kinda reminds me of the emperor and his new clothes...



Wow, that's really big news. When DVD players hit $200 their sales skyrocketed. This could be really bad for Blu-Ray, especially right on the heels of the Parmount exclusivity announcement.



Well big surprise nintendo fanboys will denying 1080p makes a difference, go on avsforum and they will explain it to you better then anyone here can and theres no pro or anti sentiments as far as 1080i/1080p go.

You really would have to be blind not to see a difference on a big tv.



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To thouse who think Blu-ray is just a little better than HD-DVD please go look at the actual specs first. Blu-ray is already bigger than the biggest HD-DVD beleived to be possible 50>45. Blu-ray can theoretically go up to 200GB and TDK has already been able to creat a disc that can do it. The read speed for HD-DVD is 48Mbps while Blu-ray has a 72Mbps read speed. In the future if Blu-Ray wins we will have a product that can get better and better over time. Mitsubishi is already talking about Filming in 3DHD and making it possible only on Blu-ray. Other benifits are bigger disk size equals less disks for things like TV shows, and franchises. Imagine if you could get all the Star Wars films on 2 disks, it is possible, but only on Blu-ray. If HD-DVD wins we will all be looking at the same thing we are right now for the next 8 years, with Blu-ray as the victor the future is open to more possibilites.



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Way to go new technology.



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AllAll said:
Well big surprise nintendo fanboys will denying 1080p makes a difference, go on avsforum and they will explain it to you better then anyone here can and theres no pro or anti sentiments as far as 1080i/1080p go.

You really would have to be blind not to see a difference on a big tv.

Again... in case you conveniently missed it the first time:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=698612

Do read through it - for movies in 24fps there is no difference - and this is taken from the very same forum you recommended.

And you are right - only blind fanboys could not see the entirely scientific and logical reasoning behind why it really makes no difference when you are watching movies- at all.

http://www.hometheatermag.com/gearworks/1106gear/

Of course, who am I - or who is Home Theater Mag to question the blind faith of a fanboy?



KBG29 said:
To thouse who think Blu-ray is just a little better than HD-DVD please go look at the actual specs first. Blu-ray is already bigger than the biggest HD-DVD beleived to be possible 50>45. Blu-ray can theoretically go up to 200GB and TDK has already been able to creat a disc that can do it. The read speed for HD-DVD is 48Mbps while Blu-ray has a 72Mbps read speed. In the future if Blu-Ray wins we will have a product that can get better and better over time. Mitsubishi is already talking about Filming in 3DHD and making it possible only on Blu-ray. Other benifits are bigger disk size equals less disks for things like TV shows, and franchises. Imagine if you could get all the Star Wars films on 2 disks, it is possible, but only on Blu-ray. If HD-DVD wins we will all be looking at the same thing we are right now for the next 8 years, with Blu-ray as the victor the future is open to more possibilites.

Theoretically up to 200GB?

Chump change. I'll stick to DVDs as they "theoretically" can store much more than a "paltry" 200GB.

http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/33582/135/



The sad truth is neither of these formats offer enough of an advantage over DVDs (especially considering the price) to be worth the upgrade. There is a reason that after more than a year and a half on the market the movie sales of Blu-Ray and HD DVD combined don't even make up 5% of the movie market. These formats are a huge joke. If one wins, it will be the one that gets cheap fast, but it's doubtful that either will really have any impact. Something that is an actual improvement to media will be released long before either of these have enough market share to be relevant.