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Orca_Azure said:
Microsoft would have to become Japanese in order to get the sales that nintendo and sony enjoy. :/ others/japan don't like american made things it would seem

Doesn't matter where the product comes from if it's great.

 

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TheTruthProphet
Utter lack of knowledge on the issue of history i see you have. Anyway not worth going off on a tangent.
With out going into politics, RRoD did one heap of damage in Europe, i think that's the main reason MS didn't do well until the price cut put it under the Wii. As im in the UK i dont feel qualified to talk about Japan



 

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Barozi said:
TheTruthProphet said:
SamuelRSmith said:
TheTruthProphet said:
Zkuq said:
It's pretty much all about image in Europe I believe. Japan on the other hand... Image, games, and being foreign. And say whatever you want, the whole box (the console itself, that is) looks pretty American to me. I don't know if I thought this way if I didn't actually know but I suppose most know MS if American anyway. Then again, I don't know if its looks actually matter in Japan.

 

 Ummmmm since when did europe start hating all things American?

Didn't America save Europe from 2 world wars last century?

Not sure why they would be anti-american since Americans paid billions of dollars to rebuild their countries.

 

 The history is past. The present is now.

People generally can't give a shit about what happened 3 years ago when it comes to general trends, let alone half a century ago.

So basically you are saying history doesn't matter.  Okay whatever.  It probably would have mattered if you were speaking German or Russian right now under communist rulers.

People should have more respect for America, the country that gave them the freedom to speak freely.

The next time russia cuts of europe's gas supplies or Iran launches a nuke your way I hope you condescending ungrateful europeans won't be looking for America to help you out. 

lol at that last part. We surely won't.

I have seen some intersting movies about America -> Zeitgeist 1 and 2...great movies,please see them.

Only then you will change your mind about how good America is.

 



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"Even the 360 having more shooters"

I had to lol at that.

Shooters are big in 4 countries. USA, Canada, UK, Australia
The 360 does well in 4 countries. USA, Canada, UK, Australia

Germany, France, Italy, Spain - they are not big markets for shooters, and the 360 (I'm not commenting on whether or not this is true) is still seen in the public eye as the shooterbox



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scottie said:
"Even the 360 having more shooters"

I had to lol at that.

Shooters are big in 4 countries. USA, Canada, UK, Australia
The 360 does well in 4 countries. USA, Canada, UK, Australia

Germany, France, Italy, Spain - they are not big markets for shooters, and the 360 (I'm not commenting on whether or not this is true) is still seen in the public eye as the shooterbox

QFT

Also, the Xbox360 seems to be carefully targeted for the USA young males. Much of the heavily stressed network centric strategy won't work in countries where broadband has limited penetration. The Netflick deal is USA only and the offer of movies in European marketplace is really poor. Hockey or football games mean squat, here people want soccer games and in the mind of most youngsters soccer games=playstation. And there's nothing like the fratboys demographics, so while Halo and Gears do sell well enough among enthusiasts, they are far from the cult status they seem to have in USA.

If they had come out with a Halo themed soda here ppl would have gone "uh?" and laughed :)

Plus here in Italy, but I think it can be generalized to most Europe, Microsoft bears the stigmata of marketing bad/faulty products because of its OS family, and the Vista PR debacle didn't help.

Windows and the Office suite are felt mostly as an imposition or at best a necessary evil in Universities, Research facilities and Public Administration. And even the less tech savy users who could not care less about OSs will usually rely on tech assistance from guys who will bash the MS products and offer illegal installations as soon as possible.

Oh, and as the poster from Germany said, all tech-savy kids dabble in PC gaming so that Xbox360 games that also appear on PC have really limited appeal.



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12M 360s sold in Others means Europe doesnt like the 360?! Do you think before you post?!



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Zomb1337 said:
12M 360s sold in Others means Europe doesnt like the 360?! Do you think before you post?!

Others isn't only Europe, here in Europe XB360 is at less than 9 millions after more than 3 years and it has an advantage of only ~400k units on PS3 despite having started selling more than one year before, 16 months IIRC. Not hate, I'll give you that, but neither a big love.

 



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Zomb1337 said:
12M 360s sold in Others means Europe doesnt like the 360?! Do you think before you post?!

Xbox360: 11.3 M vs PS3: 9.90 M is a 14% difference.

With 14 months of headstart being the only next gen console and much lower price? Yes, it means that something is wrong for the x360 image.

If the situation was reversed and Sony had a headstart I think we would be looking at a much bigger gap in its favour. Have a look at the chart: only the last price cut saved the xbox in others from being left behind.



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WereKitten said:
Zomb1337 said:
12M 360s sold in Others means Europe doesnt like the 360?! Do you think before you post?!

Xbox360: 11.3 M vs PS3: 9.90 M is a 14% difference.

With 14 months of headstart being the only next gen console and much lower price? Yes, it means that something is wrong for the x360 image.

If the situation was reversed and Sony had a headstart I think we would be looking at a much bigger gap in its favour. Have a look at the chart: only the last price cut saved the xbox in others from being left behind.

 

No no NO ! Headstart didn't helped in EU.

XBOX brand was basically nothing in Europe before the 360.

It is only now, with this gen, that we are seeing changes agains't the Playstation brand in EU.

 

Sales Wise, the 360 is doing ok in EU cause it is going head to head with PS3 and IMO it was not initally forseen by MS.

In BE, I see more and more people shifting to the 360 (from PS2 to 360 I mean), because it is becoming a brand in EU as well.

Bottom line, 360 doesn't dominate (I don't think it will) EU in general but has severly damaged the ex-domination of Sony.



 

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