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 Many people I've spoken with about the so called 'console race' have blamed Sony's lack of foresight for its position at the back of the pack, as it were. But lets face it, thinking about that for more than two seconds proves that line of thinking to be faulty. Lets deal with the Wii first - all due respect and admiration for the Wii both as a concept and as a product. No one can deny that its thrashing the other contenders in this race (if you want to believe there is a race at all) and by a hefty margin. But Sony couldn't have predicted this and neither could Microsoft, because at the end of the day it's success took Nintendo by surprise as well. Who would have thought selling games to housewives and grandparents would work out as a strategy? Sony can't be blamed for falling behind Nintendo because no one could have seen it coming.

  So then, the Wii - a great console that succeeds by having a low price point, drawing in the casual market by firing out casual games faster than anyone else and having an easy control system that doesn't scare the elderly.That might sound derogatory but it's a system that works. But lets put the Wii to one side in this argument, partly because it appeals to a clearly very different market to the two next gen consoles and partly because Sony and Microsoft are clearly butting heads with each other, not with Nintendo who is winning largely by tapping areas of the market out of desperation that no one else considered viable at the end of the last generation.

 That leaves us with the 360. This shouldn't even need to be thought about to be honest - the 360 is in every way inferior to the ps3. The console has recognised and acknowledged faults that Microsoft first denied and then ignored before eventually lackadaisically addressing, in terms of processing power and overall capability it falls behind the ps3 even with over a years head start - killzone 2's graphics being a fine example - and it support a now defunct media format, whilst making you pay extra for the privilege. Lets not foget the fact it also makes you pay for its online service, on top of the fees it takes to have the internet anyway.

 The ps3 has no hardware issues. The bluray player (which was not only the superior format to start with, but the one that justifiably won the format war) is integrated from the get go, with games coming on this new larger format which promises us greater and greater things as time passes. Online play is free. And insiders in the industry indicate the bluray will be introduced to the 360 package in 2010 - a sign that Microsoft is roundly capitulating by turning the 360 into a white and green ps3. While Microsoft forces you to buy a separate charging cable for the wireless pads, Sony includes one and constantly improves on itself by re-introducing a last gen feature like rumble due to popular demand.

 When you look at the above it is clear which is a superior console, so you've got to wonder why the 360 is ahead in the stakes. The answer is simple and damning; the consumers. The 360 is cheaper and people don't want to pay for quality. Faced with the choice of a Fabergé egg and a cadburies cream egg, the sugary treat has won the day. People who loved the ps2 but swapped to the Microsoft franchise out of disappointment complain that Sony have let them down - I fail to see how providing a superior service for a relatively low price is letting anyone down; lets not forget how much that integrated bluray player should and does cost separately. 

 The point is if you want quality you need to pay for it and even though Sony have provided nothing but quality with a host of awesome games - resistance 2, killzone 2, motorstorm 2 (all, you'll notice sequals to existing successful Sony brands, only one of which was on the ps2) - people are turning elsewhere and then complaining about Sony forgeting them. Blame needs to be placed where its due - and it ain't with Sony.



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sigh...I'll just say that I diasgree. I couldn't be bothered writing a 500 word response to that mess of a post.



drakandrin said:

 While Microsoft forces you to buy a separate charging cable for the wireless pads, Sony includes one and constantly improves on itself by re-introducing a last gen feature like rumble due to popular demand.

Obvious joke post.



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Tagged: GooseGaws - <--- Has better taste in games than you.

i agree completely. ppl in the economy we have now dont care. how many ma's and pa's went and bought a 360 because it was the cheapest console their stupid 13 year old kept whining about wanting a gaming machine. face the facts, the ps3's only gripe is price, and its worth it. it has just as many games now and better exclusives. the 360 is GARBAGE and like fast food eventually people will catch on to how crap the 360 is.



Two things that lead this post to fail:

1) "The PS3 has no hardware issues"

No piece of technology in the history of humanity has had no issues. If your PS3 doesn't, lucky you, I hope it never breaks, but your anecdotal evidence doesn't represent fact.

2) "Sony have provided nothing but quality"

Clearly you haven't played many PS3 games.

You would have saved yourself alot of time by just stating "T3H C3LL is superior to 360 and Wii!" and you'd basically have the exact same thing you wrote in your post in just one line.



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God that OP was such extreme fanboyism and blatant trolling of the Wii and 360.

Who's alt are you? You're too much of a pansy to post on your main account?



drakandrin said:

 That leaves us with the 360. This shouldn't even need to be thought about to be honest - the 360 is in every way inferior to the ps3. The console has recognised and acknowledged faults that Microsoft first denied and then ignored before eventually lackadaisically addressing, in terms of processing power and overall capability it falls behind the ps3 even with over a years head start - killzone 2's graphics being a fine example - and it support a now defunct media format, whilst making you pay extra for the privilege. Lets not foget the fact it also makes you pay for its online service, on top of the fees it takes to have the internet anyway.

 The ps3 has no hardware issues. The bluray player (which was not only the superior format to start with, but the one that justifiably won the format war) is integrated from the get go, with games coming on this new larger format which promises us greater and greater things as time passes. Online play is free. And insiders in the industry indicate the bluray will be introduced to the 360 package in 2010 - a sign that Microsoft is roundly capitulating by turning the 360 into a white and green ps3. While Microsoft forces you to buy a separate charging cable for the wireless pads, Sony includes one and constantly improves on itself by re-introducing a last gen feature like rumble due to popular demand.

 When you look at the above it is clear which is a superior console, so you've got to wonder why the 360 is ahead in the stakes. The answer is simple and damning; the consumers. The 360 is cheaper and people don't want to pay for quality. Faced with the choice of a Fabergé egg and a cadburies cream egg, the sugary treat has won the day. People who loved the ps2 but swapped to the Microsoft franchise out of disappointment complain that Sony have let them down - I fail to see how providing a superior service for a relatively low price is letting anyone down; lets not forget how much that integrated bluray player should and does cost separately. 

 The point is if you want quality you need to pay for it and even though Sony have provided nothing but quality with a host of awesome games - resistance 2, killzone 2, motorstorm 2 (all, you'll notice sequals to existing successful Sony brands, only one of which was on the ps2) - people are turning elsewhere and then complaining about Sony forgeting them. Blame needs to be placed where its due - and it ain't with Sony.

*sigh* it's so tiring when people who are pretty good at writing start only listing biased opinions. I'm not going to go into everything

Xbox was technicly superior to PS2? we saw that how turned out. It time not to forget that power isn't everything.

Blame does need to be put where it's do. Sony. Wii offers a quality product by using a design efficient system. It's also cheaper while maintaining it's high qaulity. Of course no one would assume that power=qaulity. 360 is a perfectly good gaming machine that was better designed to work in the market. Sony staff just had an inflated ego of their work and screwed up. If they produced a cheaper system where games could be developed faster and released at a similiar time frame as the 360 then things would have been different.

 



Squilliam: On Vgcharts its a commonly accepted practice to twist the bounds of plausibility in order to support your argument or agenda so I think its pretty cool that this gives me the precedent to say whatever I damn well please.

GooseGaws said:
drakandrin said:

 While Microsoft forces you to buy a separate charging cable for the wireless pads, Sony includes one and constantly improves on itself by re-introducing a last gen feature like rumble due to popular demand.

Obvious joke post.

Yeah, that was a dead giveaway.

 



reading through the first two paragraphs made me feel like pulling out the 'ol wii bingo board, but was too lazy.

on top of the many faults with your post (i.e. relying on rumors to trash the other console, making bullshit assumptions), why is it that perhaps sony just doesnt do it for some people? that this "quality" that sony is offering is completely irrelevant to some? the ps3 has pretty graphics, so does the 360. blu ray is nice - i'll (and the majority of people i know actually) prefer the cheaper DVDs, and thus blu ray is a useless feature. And for that matter, the 360 has an even more powerful exclusive lineup of software as of now(atleast if you judge by this - http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=58394 ).So you know what, the PS3 just doesnt do it for me - not with its unneccessary features and lack of backwards compatibility, and habit of disappointing me with games i actually want to be good (in particular lair - how can the rouge squadron team fuck up what was basically the same awesome n64 game but with dragons!?)

honestly - if you are going to be this stupid, atleast have the balls to post under your real IGN. a post count of <5 doesn't do a good job at hiding that fact you know.



um..stuff

I think Sony failed their fans when they introduced a $600 price tag (I was one of the people who got one early). If they didnt give the consumers more then they could chew and launch at the usual 299.99 price tag (For PS consoles) then It would be a different Generation



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