I heard some bad things about the single player, which from my experience it hasn't been much to write home about so far, but admittingly I have only played the first couple of levels and I REALLY want to fight that Leviathan.

Multiplayer however I have heard very good things about, I really want to check it out and will do so eventually.

Any multiplayer is going to be hard for me though, quite possibly even KZ2. I love the games single player with the slow speed but for multi I have always prefered speedy games like Unreal Tournament.

If R2 speed is anywhere close (75% at least) I could see myself playing a lot of R2 online.

The singleplayer is really the only singleplayer i could play cause its all real,i mean the background is real and not a picture.

Well, L4D graphics are a bit plain and nowhere near Gears 2 or KZ2 graphics and of course it has a bit different aproach as its originated from PC games(Where standards are a bit higher and you don't win with graphics only. ;) ). I am pretty sure that there isn't/won't be pure console shooter that goes for game play & fps etc. instead of graphics.

I think the game looks nice to be honest, backgrounds as all. I am sure I will get into it, I loved R1 and I am interested to know how the story turns out, whether it is good or not. I am a sucker for bad shooter stories.

Maybe one of these days I will pop up online.

I wanna add into this, what makes R2 so SUPERIOR?

LOL! This is like a Police Station interogation room.

It seems to me that people who are complaining alot lack skill or patience. Maybe so many games are to easy and require less skills. People need to harden up and just have fun!

Only a sith deals in absolutes.

On another note Damn boy ! major trolling. I mean it's fine if you don't like the game. But don't state that it sucks ass and that online is crappy and make it seem like we are all ignorant for not noticing any framerate drops. Majority of people disagree with you and while it's okay that you don't like it. Don't make it seem like it is that way for anyone.

On another note most people online has mics, makes me wonder how long you tried it and if you even played through the sp first to get used to the controls which can oaccationally be difficult to manouver sure. The 360 comments doesn't really help you either. This isn't a thread that went wrong because the wrong people came in, if you notice it's pretty levelheaded people who argue against you. It's the way you presented things, already in the op, that pisses people off.

Really makes you look like a troll. You could have avoided it by typing down your complaints differently, not overexagerating and by keeping the mentions of how people are different on the 360 out of the op :\damn.

Oh yeah, and a lot of 360fans are dying to get their hands on this game, so i don't really see how that point is valid either.

1.I wasnt trolling because i bought the game,i was hyped for the game,I stated reason why the game sucks ass to me.

2.I was pissed off when i wrote it.

3.I might of just fked up because im thinking the online was garbage because of lag(not the game lag but my own,i think cause i had my PS3 sitting right over my wireless internet box it was fking with it or something idk) and im gonna try to play now,like before i could put a hole clip in someone and they could kill me in 1 shot thats why i hated it,if its still like that then i will hate it.

OK

Gears 1-2 Linear story mode with medicore/linear story,ooh big bad aliens.

CoD4/WaW same as gears

Bioshock is indeed unique but it average thats why its 20$

The Darkness is an average run of the mill game,lets give this guy dark creepy powers ooh ahh,and i hate how all shooters have bad asses,if bad ass is the new standard whos the new bad ass?

and onto R2.

Linear story check,Linear weapons nope,Linear ending nope,Linear enemies nope.