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Kantor said:
Cidien said:
NinjaKido said:
Ciden same could be said about those who attack all thing Sony .

 

I don't attack all things sony.  It's just funny because ps3 fanboys are Fn nuts.  Like I said before, I actually bought KZ2.  I enjoy it.  It's a really good game.  But it's funny/stupid how much ps3 fanboys defend the controls.  They aren't good controls.  They aren't realistic.  They're just poor controls.  I said it's mostly cod whiners before because it's hard to talk about the controls in KZ2 without someone complaining about cod giving you actually good controls.  Cod may give you a little too much aim assist, but the ability to move around accurately is really nice.

And yes, I have shot a real weapon.  Have you?  I was in the army.  Pointing at something, killing it, then pointing at another things and killing it with accuracy is extremely realistic if you're a good shot.  The problem is, under fire, it gets much harder to shoot accurately.  People don't take enough time to aim with bullets wizzing past them.  Explosions will knock your aim off and cause a lot of stress which will further ruin your accuracy.  Your avatar is assumed to be a fearless killing machine, as you're basically single handedly winning the war.  I would assume that he is able to aim somewhat realistically.  Apparantly i'm wrong.

Explain this:

If the controls suck, why does pretty much everyone except you love them? Surely if they're bad, they're unusable.

It's just different! It's a different game! Stop thinking of it as an FPS, if you like. Think of it as something else. Forget everything you know about playing an FPS, and THEN play Killzone 2. It isn't Call of Duty 4. If you want CoD4, go play CoD4. Would you want to play Brawl with Tekken controls? Mario Kart with Gran Turismo controls? No, they're different games. Different type of fighter. Different type of racing game. Different type of shooter.

The people who got to 10 Prestige 55 on CoD4 are just annoyed because they're no longer so much better than everyone else. They can't stand it, starting from the same place as everyone else...

 

This guy that just posted, Kantor. Won the thread.

This thread should now be locked.

 



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Smashed said:
Kantor said:
Cidien said:
NinjaKido said:
Ciden same could be said about those who attack all thing Sony .

 

I don't attack all things sony.  It's just funny because ps3 fanboys are Fn nuts.  Like I said before, I actually bought KZ2.  I enjoy it.  It's a really good game.  But it's funny/stupid how much ps3 fanboys defend the controls.  They aren't good controls.  They aren't realistic.  They're just poor controls.  I said it's mostly cod whiners before because it's hard to talk about the controls in KZ2 without someone complaining about cod giving you actually good controls.  Cod may give you a little too much aim assist, but the ability to move around accurately is really nice.

And yes, I have shot a real weapon.  Have you?  I was in the army.  Pointing at something, killing it, then pointing at another things and killing it with accuracy is extremely realistic if you're a good shot.  The problem is, under fire, it gets much harder to shoot accurately.  People don't take enough time to aim with bullets wizzing past them.  Explosions will knock your aim off and cause a lot of stress which will further ruin your accuracy.  Your avatar is assumed to be a fearless killing machine, as you're basically single handedly winning the war.  I would assume that he is able to aim somewhat realistically.  Apparantly i'm wrong.

Explain this:

If the controls suck, why does pretty much everyone except you love them? Surely if they're bad, they're unusable.

It's just different! It's a different game! Stop thinking of it as an FPS, if you like. Think of it as something else. Forget everything you know about playing an FPS, and THEN play Killzone 2. It isn't Call of Duty 4. If you want CoD4, go play CoD4. Would you want to play Brawl with Tekken controls? Mario Kart with Gran Turismo controls? No, they're different games. Different type of fighter. Different type of racing game. Different type of shooter.

The people who got to 10 Prestige 55 on CoD4 are just annoyed because they're no longer so much better than everyone else. They can't stand it, starting from the same place as everyone else...

 

This guy that just posted, Kantor. Won the thread.

This thread should now be locked.

 

 

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Kantor said:

Explain this:

If the controls suck, why does pretty much everyone except you love them? Surely if they're bad, they're unusable.

 Bad and unusable are not the same. RTS games on a console have bad controls, but you can still play them and enjoy it. Secondly, there have been a thousand and one people complaining about the KZ2 controls. There is a thread on the official forums about it that got 300ish pages of replies as I recall. If you want to defend the game then go ahead, but don't distort reality to do it.



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Gnizmo said:

Kantor said:

Explain this:

If the controls suck, why does pretty much everyone except you love them? Surely if they're bad, they're unusable.

 Bad and unusable are not the same. RTS games on a console have bad controls, but you can still play them and enjoy it. Secondly, there have been a thousand and one people complaining about the KZ2 controls. There is a thread on the official forums about it that got 300ish pages of replies as I recall. If you want to defend the game then go ahead, but don't distort reality to do it.

 

*pulls a smashed* You win the thread :P

JK

Good point though.



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Kantor said:

Explain this:

If the controls suck, why does pretty much everyone except you love them? Surely if they're bad, they're unusable.

It's just different! It's a different game! Stop thinking of it as an FPS, if you like. Think of it as something else. Forget everything you know about playing an FPS, and THEN play Killzone 2. It isn't Call of Duty 4. If you want CoD4, go play CoD4. Would you want to play Brawl with Tekken controls? Mario Kart with Gran Turismo controls? No, they're different games. Different type of fighter. Different type of racing game. Different type of shooter.

The people who got to 10 Prestige 55 on CoD4 are just annoyed because they're no longer so much better than everyone else. They can't stand it, starting from the same place as everyone else...

 

Really? If they're fine, how does the subject manage to pop up so much? The Playstation Boards get a thread about the controls all the time (though they're all tards when it comes to discussing it). I was playing online earlier and even heard complaints on a rare occasion.

It'd also be a good idea if you stopped telling people to go back to CoD4 - people are complaining so much because they wanna like the game. The truth is most people probably don't wanna go back to CoD4. They want somethin different. KZ2 finally arrives and even some of the people that are used to the controls are still bothered by them.

I have no idea what GG was tryin to do with these controls, but they sure as hell arn't realisitic.

It's funny when you see two people going at it - sometimes you can literally see that they're struggling with the controls, as they do circles around eachother for a while.

I think it's about time that someone makes a poll on this. It's hard to tell whether the majority likes or dislikes it, but you can't deny that it's been gettin tons of complaints.

 



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KylieDog said:
klaudkil said:
nooo..... for the last time!! they made it soo you can feel the weight of the gun
this is not a call of duty arcade game
you have to have real skill in it...

trust me it will be alright after some time...

inaccuret? whahha..nooo... you can make a headset with the first 2 guns in MP and thats something.

 

If it was done to make you feel the weight of the gun an assualt rifle would not handle the exact same way as a pistol.

 

It was done intentionally,  who says it's the weight of the gun?  Maybe just the weight of your 'body' or character.

 



I don't like the controls. You can't change my opinion on that, I'm all for things being different but this is a crappy kind of different.



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Rpruett said:

It was done intentionally,  who says it's the weight of the gun?  Maybe just the weight of your 'body' or character.

 

Yet somehow, you can run at fullspeed while reloading a bigass rocket launcher, taking only about 2 secs to catch your breath.

So is it safe to assume that were dealing with soldiers on steroids, who managed to develop huge tumors on their arms making it hard to aim?

 



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Parasitic said:
Kantor said:

Explain this:

If the controls suck, why does pretty much everyone except you love them? Surely if they're bad, they're unusable.

It's just different! It's a different game! Stop thinking of it as an FPS, if you like. Think of it as something else. Forget everything you know about playing an FPS, and THEN play Killzone 2. It isn't Call of Duty 4. If you want CoD4, go play CoD4. Would you want to play Brawl with Tekken controls? Mario Kart with Gran Turismo controls? No, they're different games. Different type of fighter. Different type of racing game. Different type of shooter.

The people who got to 10 Prestige 55 on CoD4 are just annoyed because they're no longer so much better than everyone else. They can't stand it, starting from the same place as everyone else...

 

Really? If they're fine, how does the subject manage to pop up so much? The Playstation Boards get a thread about the controls all the time (though they're all tards when it comes to discussing it). I was playing online earlier and even heard complaints on a rare occasion.

It'd also be a good idea if you stopped telling people to go back to CoD4 - people are complaining so much because they wanna like the game. The truth is most people probably don't wanna go back to CoD4. They want somethin different. KZ2 finally arrives and even some of the people that are used to the controls are still bothered by them.

I have no idea what GG was tryin to do with these controls, but they sure as hell arn't realisitic.

It's funny when you see two people going at it - sometimes you can literally see that they're struggling with the controls, as they do circles around eachother for a while.

I think it's about time that someone makes a poll on this. It's hard to tell whether the majority likes or dislikes it, but you can't deny that it's been gettin tons of complaints.

 

 

My feeling exactly, I don't get into hype so I wasn't hyped for the game but when it came closer to release, and heard all these good things. I was really looking for something to pry me away from playing CoD4/Halo on my friends 360 (been wanting to get CoD4 on PS3 but I was waiting for it to drop since I've paid for it once) and W@W on Wii, so Killzone was supposed to be the next big FPS. 

I downloaded the demo started fiddling around with it, kept really trying different control set ups, I was still getting kills like any other shooter, but the controls were really awkward and when taking cover it was uncomfortable to have so many buttons pressed down at once, even Quantum of Solace had a better cover system, and it's like this you can either play games with comfortable controls that work well and have fun, or have controls that aren't as satisfying no matter how much "getting used to it" you do, some advancements for console FPS like aim assist that keep you from over adjusting and able to keep steady in a fire fight, it's just not there so it's like playing old FPS games without it.



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