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HappySqurriel said:

 

Not everyone who dislikes big government supports government intervention to prevent drug usage ...

Beyond that, the insane level or partisanship in our political system forces people to take a lot of inconsistent positions on a lot of issues. Many people (like myself) see the war on drugs and gun control to be fairly similar issues, and think that it is amazing that so many people will argue that making one illegal won't prevent people from having access to it while promoting more (and more strict) laws on the other.

You are right.  That is the Jeffersonian style conservatism that I am much more comfortable with than the military hawkish form of modern conservatism that has overwhelmed the Republican Party.

I am not advocating making guns illegal, but I am for strict regulations on them.  Even most police officers are pro-gun control.  They get shot at by people armed with automatic weapons and modified guns that are more dangerous than the original.  I am sorry, but there is no need for people to have automatic weapons to hunt or even to protect yourself.  The average person would shoot up their own home and likely kill a family member if they tried to use an automatic weapon to stop an intruder.

There is strong statistical evidence that even the presence of a gun in a home increases the likelihood of a death in the home significantly.  People have the right to bear arms, but that right isn't unlimited.  I'm not for banning guns, but having guns around is much more dangerous than having marijuana around.

Hell, violent crime would probably go DOWN if marijuana was legalized.  1) People would substitute it for some of the drugs that directly cause criminal behavior, like alcohol, cocaine, meth, heroin, etc. 2) Organized crime and drug cartels would lose a MAJOR source of their income.  The effect of outlawing marijuana has really been no different than the effect of Prohibition.  It encourages a general disregard for the law and creates a thriving black market for something that has a huge demand.

 



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No. Giving in is giving up. Strive to maintain morality. We don't need high drivers on top of drunk drivers.



halogamer1989 said:
No. Giving in is giving up. Strive to maintain morality. We don't need high drivers on top of drunk drivers.

Define "morality".

 




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halogamer1989 said:
No. Giving in is giving up. Strive to maintain morality. We don't need high drivers on top of drunk drivers.

We already have high drivers.



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rocketpig said:
halogamer1989 said:
No. Giving in is giving up. Strive to maintain morality. We don't need high drivers on top of drunk drivers.

Define "morality".

 

Singular
morality

Plural
usually uncountable; plural moralities

morality (usually uncountable; plural moralities)

  1. The ability to distinguish good and evil or right and wrong, right or good conduct.
  2. (ethics) Motivation based on ideas of right and wrong.
  3. (countable) A system of moral beliefs or practices.

 

 



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halogamer1989 said:

rocketpig said:
halogamer1989 said:
No. Giving in is giving up. Strive to maintain morality. We don't need high drivers on top of drunk drivers.

Define "morality".

 

Singular
morality

Plural
usually uncountable; plural moralities

morality (usually uncountable; plural moralities)

  1. The ability to distinguish good and evil or right and wrong, right or good conduct.
  2. (ethics) Motivation based on ideas of right and wrong.
  3. (countable) A system of moral beliefs or practices.

Just as I suspected. Not a single mention of drugs or even what "right and wrong" means.

 




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rocketpig said:
halogamer1989 said:

rocketpig said:
halogamer1989 said:
No. Giving in is giving up. Strive to maintain morality. We don't need high drivers on top of drunk drivers.

Define "morality".

 

Singular
morality

Plural
usually uncountable; plural moralities

morality (usually uncountable; plural moralities)

  1. The ability to distinguish good and evil or right and wrong, right or good conduct.
  2. (ethics) Motivation based on ideas of right and wrong.
  3. (countable) A system of moral beliefs or practices.

Just as I suspected. Not a single mention of drugs or even what "right and wrong" means.

 

I don't want to give you what you want to hear.  I defined it.

 



halogamer1989 said:
No. Giving in is giving up. Strive to maintain morality. We don't need high drivers on top of drunk drivers.

But by legalising some drugs you can monitor and control the sales drugs and thise who use them. If someone wants to do drugs they do it... legal or not. This way you get to monitor them, better the devil you know kind of deal. People should still stay off them alltogether though, but that'snot going to happen lol.



Nothing wrong with legalizing drugs, really. But it depends on the people. I live in the Netherlands and no-one here gives a flying fart about it. Some people use it, but the vast majority doesn't. Of the people who use it, only a tiny minority could be seen as junkies or addicts. But those are everywhere, all over the world. Yes we are a small country, but relatively, we have far less drugs-related problems than other countries like the US for example. That being said, I don't think Americans could handle it.



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Cheebee said:
Nothing wrong with legalizing drugs, really. But it depends on the people. I live in the Netherlands and no-one here gives a flying fart about it. Some people use it, but the vast majority doesn't. Of the people who use it, only a tiny minority could be seen as junkies or addicts. But those are everywhere, all over the world. Yes we are a small country, but relatively, we have far less drugs-related problems than other countries like the US for example. That being said, I don't think Americans could handle it.

This is what I mean.  Americans are not mature when it comes to these things.  If they can't handle daily credit cards, how much more can they handle a drug that can have life changing effects?