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madkiller said:
JaggedSac said:

http://www.rpgsite.net/news/305.html

Xbox Live Bans Straights as well as Gays

Posted on February 26, 2009 by Alex Donaldson

A story surfaced yesterday about how a Lesbian Xbox 360 Gamer got banned from Xbox Live for listing herself as being Lesbian in her profile.

As always with controversial issues, fans jumped in and issues got heated as people debated if Microsoft and the Xbox Live service were discriminating against homosexuals.

Thank god for the industrious people of NeoGAF, who decided to put the whole issue to the test. One member added a simple statement to the end of his Xbox Live Bio - simply stating "Heterosexual." The people of the forum then reported him.

Several hours later he recieved notification of a 24 hour ban from Xbox Live and the removal of the 'inappropriate content' from his profile.

Check out the original post and discussion thread over on NeoGAF.

So there you have it - Xbox Live bans gays and straights. That rules out discrimination - but is it still wrong? We'll leave that one up to you.

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Just as I thought.

Case closed, MS haters defeated once again...

 

Actually this just shows that there discrimination in the TOS against freedom of expression. So like the last question in that article states. Is it still wrong? the answer is YES.



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haxxiy said:
madkiller said:
 Just do a google search for lesbian and you will see that you won't find any lesbian non-sexual sites in the top million hits.

 

I actually did it and even on the top 10 you get lesbianlife.com (questions about lesbian lifestyle on general) lesbianation.com (entertainment, travel destinations etc.) and lesbian.org (resources, general information), besides the wikipedia link.

So you failed big time here.

I am not talking about sponsored hits. I am talking about the general hits, there is a big difference. The sponsored hits are when those websites pay Google to be at the top of the list. So you fail...

 



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ssj12 said:
madkiller said:
JaggedSac said:

http://www.rpgsite.net/news/305.html

Xbox Live Bans Straights as well as Gays

Posted on February 26, 2009 by Alex Donaldson

A story surfaced yesterday about how a Lesbian Xbox 360 Gamer got banned from Xbox Live for listing herself as being Lesbian in her profile.

As always with controversial issues, fans jumped in and issues got heated as people debated if Microsoft and the Xbox Live service were discriminating against homosexuals.

Thank god for the industrious people of NeoGAF, who decided to put the whole issue to the test. One member added a simple statement to the end of his Xbox Live Bio - simply stating "Heterosexual." The people of the forum then reported him.

Several hours later he recieved notification of a 24 hour ban from Xbox Live and the removal of the 'inappropriate content' from his profile.

Check out the original post and discussion thread over on NeoGAF.

So there you have it - Xbox Live bans gays and straights. That rules out discrimination - but is it still wrong? We'll leave that one up to you.

****************************************************************

Just as I thought.

Case closed, MS haters defeated once again...

 

Actually this just shows that there discrimination in the TOS against freedom of expression. So like the last question in that article states. Is it still wrong? the answer is YES.

So now the problem isn't with the fact that they banned someone for putting sexually related content on their profile, but the fact that the TOS denies the freedom of expression?  Wow, that is a whole other can of worms there.

 



antfromtashkent said:
JaggedSac said:
ssj12 said:

 

Actually sqrl, there is no modification needed and what was stated is fine.

Gay and Lesbian sexuality is pretty much the same thing. Only major difference is gender involved. Pretty much calling lesbianism wrong also spits in the face of the male population that is happy being gay. If you look at the definition of homosexuality it covered couples of a same sex and doesnt single out male or females as both lesbian and gay tendancies are both filed under homosexuality.

So in a nut shell, gay = lesbian = homosexuality.

 

Anyways, what Microsoft is doing period is highly discriminatory. Most services provide a spot for preference allowing for straight, gay, lesbian, bi, bi-curious. An XBL profile is nothing different then a myspace, facebook, PSN, facethejury, etc profile making it so that if a person decides to post their preference, even if there is no field provided and they just do it in an "about me" section, it is perfectly a-ok to do so. If one is banned for publicly stating their preference there are some massive legal issues when you look at discrimination laws in the USA and many countries around the world. Microsoft is putting themselves in hole that they wont get out of if someone actually pushes this subject.

Microsoft doesn't care if the person in question is a lesbian or not. The fact that they disobeyed the terms of service is quite obvious. It says not to put anything sexual into your profile. Which the person did. If I put that I am a doggystyle only hetero person, does that mean they discriminated against all like minded doggystyle only hetero people(just an example) if they ban me? No it means I shouldn't put anything sexual on my profile.

 

i dont understand how you can use such direct sexual refferences to prove your point... Lesbian IS NOT a direct sexual term...it only implies the lifestyle and not how you like to f*** women....

 

We don't know how graphic she was in her profile. It could have been simply, "I am a lesbian from Paducah, Kentucky." Or it might have been considerably more explicit: "Sorry, boys, but I can't get enough of the muff!" We just don't know.



ssj12 said:
madkiller said:
JaggedSac said:

http://www.rpgsite.net/news/305.html

Xbox Live Bans Straights as well as Gays

Posted on February 26, 2009 by Alex Donaldson

A story surfaced yesterday about how a Lesbian Xbox 360 Gamer got banned from Xbox Live for listing herself as being Lesbian in her profile.

As always with controversial issues, fans jumped in and issues got heated as people debated if Microsoft and the Xbox Live service were discriminating against homosexuals.

Thank god for the industrious people of NeoGAF, who decided to put the whole issue to the test. One member added a simple statement to the end of his Xbox Live Bio - simply stating "Heterosexual." The people of the forum then reported him.

Several hours later he recieved notification of a 24 hour ban from Xbox Live and the removal of the 'inappropriate content' from his profile.

Check out the original post and discussion thread over on NeoGAF.

So there you have it - Xbox Live bans gays and straights. That rules out discrimination - but is it still wrong? We'll leave that one up to you.

****************************************************************

Just as I thought.

Case closed, MS haters defeated once again...

 

Actually this just shows that there discrimination in the TOS against freedom of expression. So like the last question in that article states. Is it still wrong? the answer is YES.

You get more and more wrong with every post you make. It has NOTHING to do with discrimination. There would only be discrimination if they were banned because of their orientation. This is NOT the case. They were banned for using words that are against the TOS, which has nothing to do with discrimination. If you can't see this then you need to not bother posting anymore about anything EVER.

 



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madkiller said:
haxxiy said:
madkiller said:
 Just do a google search for lesbian and you will see that you won't find any lesbian non-sexual sites in the top million hits.

 

I actually did it and even on the top 10 you get lesbianlife.com (questions about lesbian lifestyle on general) lesbianation.com (entertainment, travel destinations etc.) and lesbian.org (resources, general information), besides the wikipedia link.

So you failed big time here.

I am not talking about sponsored hits. I am talking about the general hits, there is a big difference. The sponsored hits are when those websites pay Google to be at the top of the list. So you fail...

 

Yes, keep thinking there are a million sites acessed more than any of these I mentioned. Without any decent logic to back you up you keep failing.

 



 

 

 

 

 

haxxiy said:
madkiller said:
haxxiy said:
madkiller said:
 Just do a google search for lesbian and you will see that you won't find any lesbian non-sexual sites in the top million hits.

 

I actually did it and even on the top 10 you get lesbianlife.com (questions about lesbian lifestyle on general) lesbianation.com (entertainment, travel destinations etc.) and lesbian.org (resources, general information), besides the wikipedia link.

So you failed big time here.

I am not talking about sponsored hits. I am talking about the general hits, there is a big difference. The sponsored hits are when those websites pay Google to be at the top of the list. So you fail...

 

Yes, keep thinking there are a million sites acessed more than any of these I mentioned. Without any decent logic to back you up you keep failing.

 

LMAO, you think lesbian life sites are visited more than porn sites? That is the most hilarious thing I have ever heard.

 



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ssj12 said:
madkiller said:
ssj12 said:
Chrizum said:

Wow, this is quite sad.

It's even sadder some people here (fortunately not many) defend Microsoft on this one, and even calling gay sexuality sick and perverted. Time for a permaban, mister Baggins?

(Mod Edit) - In regards to the red part which I've crossed out: After reviewing this thread I cannot find anywhere that Baggins said this.  There were things said that were inflammatory but that doesn't give you the right to modify or invent other things and claim that they were what was actually said.  In the future please quote the individual so that there is a precise record of the comment for reference in your post.  -Sqrl

 

Actually sqrl, there is no modification needed and what was stated is fine.

Gay and Lesbian sexuality is pretty much the same thing. Only major difference is gender involved. Pretty much calling lesbianism wrong also spits in the face of the male population that is happy being gay. If you look at the definition of homosexuality it covered couples of a same sex and doesnt single out male or females as both lesbian and gay tendancies are both filed under homosexuality.

So in a nut shell, gay = lesbian = homosexuality.

 

Anyways, what Microsoft is doing period is highly discriminatory. Most services provide a spot for preference allowing for straight, gay, lesbian, bi, bi-curious. An XBL profile is nothing different then a myspace, facebook, PSN, facethejury, etc profile making it so that if a person decides to post their preference, even if there is no field provided and they just do it in an "about me" section, it is perfectly a-ok to do so. If one is banned for publicly stating their preference there are some massive legal issues when you look at discrimination laws in the USA and many countries around the world. Microsoft is putting themselves in hole that they wont get out of if someone actually pushes this subject.

Actually SSJ, you are completely wrong on another subject. Xbox Live is nothing like those other services you mentioned. Xbox Live is a gaming network whose main function is playing games with other people. Those other services' main function is for social networking. Plus, those other services have age restrictions and generally do not allow kids to see adult profiles or adults to see kid profiles. Xbox Live has no distinction between the two. Also, any word that refers to something of a sexual nature is aganst the TOS period. If you don't like it, too bad. MS can ban whoever they want from their service.  The simple fact is that most people think of a word like lesbian in a sexual sense. Just do a google search for lesbian and you will see that you won't find any lesbian non-sexual sites in the top million hits.

 

Live isnt like the PSN? PSN = PlayStation Network which is a gaming network. Other gaming networks include Steam, Impulse, and Xfire. All have nothing against stating sexual preference in the TOS.

 

From the PSN Terms of Service:

You may not take any action, or upload, post, stream, or otherwise transmit any content, language, images or sounds in any forum, communication, public profile, or other publicly viewable areas or in the creation of any Online ID that SCEA, in its sole discretion, finds offensive, hateful, or vulgar.  This includes but is not limited to, any content or communication that SCEA in its sole discretion deems racially, ethnically, religiously, or sexually offensive, libelous, defaming, threatening, bullying or stalking.

 



madkiller said:
haxxiy said:
madkiller said:
haxxiy said:
madkiller said:
Just do a google search for lesbian and you will see that you won't find any lesbian non-sexual sites in the top million hits.

 

I actually did it and even on the top 10 you get lesbianlife.com (questions about lesbian lifestyle on general) lesbianation.com (entertainment, travel destinations etc.) and lesbian.org (resources, general information), besides the wikipedia link.

So you failed big time here.

I am not talking about sponsored hits. I am talking about the general hits, there is a big difference. The sponsored hits are when those websites pay Google to be at the top of the list. So you fail...

 

Yes, keep thinking there are a million sites acessed more than any of these I mentioned. Without any decent logic to back you up you keep failing.

 

LMAO, you think lesbian life sites are visited more than porn sites? That is the most hilarious thing I have ever heard.

 

Really. Anecdotal evidence, I know, but in my case it's about an 8:1 ratio in favor of porn.



nightsurge said:
ssj12 said:
madkiller said:
ssj12 said:
Chrizum said:

Wow, this is quite sad.

It's even sadder some people here (fortunately not many) defend Microsoft on this one, and even calling gay sexuality sick and perverted. Time for a permaban, mister Baggins?

(Mod Edit) - In regards to the red part which I've crossed out: After reviewing this thread I cannot find anywhere that Baggins said this.  There were things said that were inflammatory but that doesn't give you the right to modify or invent other things and claim that they were what was actually said.  In the future please quote the individual so that there is a precise record of the comment for reference in your post.  -Sqrl

 

Actually sqrl, there is no modification needed and what was stated is fine.

Gay and Lesbian sexuality is pretty much the same thing. Only major difference is gender involved. Pretty much calling lesbianism wrong also spits in the face of the male population that is happy being gay. If you look at the definition of homosexuality it covered couples of a same sex and doesnt single out male or females as both lesbian and gay tendancies are both filed under homosexuality.

So in a nut shell, gay = lesbian = homosexuality.

 

Anyways, what Microsoft is doing period is highly discriminatory. Most services provide a spot for preference allowing for straight, gay, lesbian, bi, bi-curious. An XBL profile is nothing different then a myspace, facebook, PSN, facethejury, etc profile making it so that if a person decides to post their preference, even if there is no field provided and they just do it in an "about me" section, it is perfectly a-ok to do so. If one is banned for publicly stating their preference there are some massive legal issues when you look at discrimination laws in the USA and many countries around the world. Microsoft is putting themselves in hole that they wont get out of if someone actually pushes this subject.

Actually SSJ, you are completely wrong on another subject. Xbox Live is nothing like those other services you mentioned. Xbox Live is a gaming network whose main function is playing games with other people. Those other services' main function is for social networking. Plus, those other services have age restrictions and generally do not allow kids to see adult profiles or adults to see kid profiles. Xbox Live has no distinction between the two. Also, any word that refers to something of a sexual nature is aganst the TOS period. If you don't like it, too bad. MS can ban whoever they want from their service.  The simple fact is that most people think of a word like lesbian in a sexual sense. Just do a google search for lesbian and you will see that you won't find any lesbian non-sexual sites in the top million hits.

 

Live isnt like the PSN? PSN = PlayStation Network which is a gaming network. Other gaming networks include Steam, Impulse, and Xfire. All have nothing against stating sexual preference in the TOS.

 

From the PSN Terms of Service:

You may not take any action, or upload, post, stream, or otherwise transmit any content, language, images or sounds in any forum, communication, public profile, or other publicly viewable areas or in the creation of any Online ID that SCEA, in its sole discretion, finds offensive, hateful, or vulgar.  This includes but is not limited to, any content or communication that SCEA in its sole discretion deems racially, ethnically, religiously, or sexually offensive, libelous, defaming, threatening, bullying or stalking.

 

SSj defeated once again, it's a great day...

 



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