Split screen isn't about playing better. It's about playing with friends. And yes, it's great if all your friends own PS3s and KZ2, but guess what? If you're in the US, the chances ae most of your friends don't have PS3, and relatively few of those will get KZ2. With split screen, 1 guy with PS3 and KZ2 allows you to play with friends.

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Very true but they have a hell of a lot more in common in that. Actually if you were to switch the games up on the platforms I doubt there would be a difference in the hype whatsoever. Actually the only difference between the two games is Killzone is part of a series... but not an established one both sales wise or critically.

But both are generic shooters that gained hype through their graphical achievements and excellent PR. Really I find it funny when people criticize one and praise the other when they are essentially the same thing. And really I'll be laughing when The Conduit doesn't get the exact same review scores as Killzone 2 because I will be the first to ask what was different haha. But that's professional reviewers for ya. That's why I've pretty much kept my thoughts of both games as generic and run of the mill til I get to play them and see if it pushes something beyond that. Otherwise they are an important game for long time users of their respective consoles but they aren't gods.

So no they've gained from this but in the future they will suffer because of it because it wasn't obtained by merit.

A very large percentage play these features. Largely because they are what cause additional people to buy the games. You play with a friend at his house, and it causes you to buy it. Why do you think Halo 3 is stil selling 16 months after launch? People are still exposing their friends, who in turn buy the game. Even if you're perfectly happy buying the game without split screen, it severely reduces the chances your friends will.

Wasn't Haze a poor man's Halo, though? And since the 360 is cheaper, poor men went with Halo... I thought that was the problem.

None, but the two Wii FPS which are on track to sell a million or more have local multiplayer.

I think The Conduit will suffer, as their seems to be a greater value in splitscreen play for Wii games than for HD games.

And since I got my greasy hands on Killzone 2 today, I can safely say that I would have it no other way! For every time you get annoyed at a framerate drop and a small stall in the game to load (both of which I have so far only seen in the beginning of the game), there are going to be so many other times where you will marvel at it, and I would lovingly trade in splitscreen play to have Killzone 2 be what it is.

But I can't understand why so many people seem to think that splitscreen (online or not) is of such low importance. Sure, it might be more annoying to play a game on half a screen, but the splitscreen coop is the only reason I will ever buy RE5 for example. Army of Two would have been a disastrous failure without it as well, and having online coop in R2 means a hell of a lot for me and my buddies.
Games that are built with splitscreen in mind will usually be all the better for it, but it is hardly needed in every game these days.

Isn't the main reason The Conduit doesn't have split screen do to not having enough money and time.I clearly remember them saying that and since this project is completely self funded (except for the advertising and what not) It makes sense that they would cut a feature that self inflicts harm to the image of the game.Which is a hardcore game with good graphics and excellent controls which split screen would hamper greatly(drop in graphics and framerate). If this game sell well then split screen will be possible in the future do to having more time and money to spend on those aspects of the sequel.

I personally believe it depends on the game. However, both games to me Conduit, and KZ2 should have splitscreen imo. A game like Uncharted doesn't require splitscreen, it has a rich single player experience, and a easily to identify main protaganist. I'm not saying Killzone 2 doesn't have a rich single player campaign, but I think split-screen would greatly benefit KZ2.

Also yes majority of people play Halo 3 online, but if you've ever played Halo 3 online you're going to see plenty of people playing split-screen on an online game. At least every other game somebody is playing Halo 3 with a buddy. Sometimes you won't even be able to tell, shoot I re-download my gamer profile whenever I'm playing Halo 3 at my friend's house. To me there's no fun playing online with strangers, if I ever play online on my 360 90% percent of the time I'm playing with people I know either in real life or I've met from VGCharts. The only games I don't do this are fighting games.

Might be true for The Conduit, but it isn't for KZ2.

The majority of PS3 owners based on Sony numbers have actually connected to the PSN so playing online really isn't that big of an issue for HD console owners...

Lets Face it, Splitscreen was king when online was not very common , the more common online becomes ( and it's really an integrated feature in HD consoles) the less important splitscreen becomes....

Heck as a HD developer I would rather have my customers buy 2 copies of the game than have them share one copy and play splitscreen....