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Euphoria14 on 24 February 2009
mrstickball said:
Not every Square Enix JRPG has had bad legs:

Kingdom Hearts
Romancing SaGa
Unlimited Saga
DQ & FF Itadaki Street Special
Dawn of Mana
Fullmetal Alchemist
Drakengard
Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker
Dragon Quest IV DS
Final Fantasy III DS
Final Fantasy IV DS
Itadaki Street DS
Children of Mana
The World Ends with You
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All doubled their launches in terms of LTD software sale. So I think that S-E does have more than a few games that have had big launches, and followed up with legs. Star Ocean 2 did increase it's sales by 95% over it's launch week, which was pretty good.

I can not believe that game sold over 250k in it's opening week in Japan (according to VGChartz data). I have that game and it is the one game I really dislike from Team SaGa.

 



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Tremble on 24 February 2009

Nice, now the 360 can die in japan.



gebx on 24 February 2009
Euphoria14 said:
mysticD said:
I think you Sony Defense Force are just missing the point, even if they want to put this game out for PS3 they wouldn't be able to, because they would still be in development. Many of the developers for Japanese games said times and times again, the reason they make games for the 360 is because the SDK for the 360 was ready to go while the PS3 one was not.

So look at it this way, with the 360, the game is out NOW instead of a year from now. If you are so hard up on Sony, then by all mean wait for the game to come out on PS3. But stop this stupid argument that 360 "ruin" JRPG sales for you. The genre has became very niche just like many others genre from last get.

 

Good job labeling half the thread because they disagree.

Doesn't matter whether you are right or wrong in your opinion. Labeling an entire thread full of people because they think differently isn't right and I doubt you would appreciate if it was done to you.

It doesn't take rocket science to realize that that portion of your comment was aimed at me.

 

 

He's only referring to those who believe SO4 sold below their expectations.

Apparently people wanted the game to sell more then what was shipped. To them it doesn't matter that the game !!!!!SOLD OUT!!!!!!! 

Its just sour PS3 owners seing another RPG that might never be played on the PS3.



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Euphoria14 on 24 February 2009
gebx said:
Euphoria14 said:
mysticD said:
I think you Sony Defense Force are just missing the point, even if they want to put this game out for PS3 they wouldn't be able to, because they would still be in development. Many of the developers for Japanese games said times and times again, the reason they make games for the 360 is because the SDK for the 360 was ready to go while the PS3 one was not.

So look at it this way, with the 360, the game is out NOW instead of a year from now. If you are so hard up on Sony, then by all mean wait for the game to come out on PS3. But stop this stupid argument that 360 "ruin" JRPG sales for you. The genre has became very niche just like many others genre from last get.

 

Good job labeling half the thread because they disagree.

Doesn't matter whether you are right or wrong in your opinion. Labeling an entire thread full of people because they think differently isn't right and I doubt you would appreciate if it was done to you.

It doesn't take rocket science to realize that that portion of your comment was aimed at me.

 

 

He's only referring to those who believe SO4 sold below their expectations.

Apparently people wanted the game to sell more then what was shipped. To them it doesn't matter that the game !!!!!SOLD OUT!!!!!!! 

Its just sour PS3 owners seing another RPG that may or may not be played on the PS3.

 

Well, I am one of those people who wished the game had higher sales and talked about how it hasreached just over 50-60% of the average launch week sales of the series.

Thing is though, I want all JRPG to be multiplat because I don't want to watch this genre fade.

I am also one who hopes the US gamers pick this game up today and that it has a strong week next week in Japan. I know I am at least going to add 1 to the US total though.

 



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Egghead on 24 February 2009
mrstickball said:
I think people are forgetting the possibility of this game having good legs. ToV and BD both had awesome legs, so it's possible that a supply-strapped SO4 could see very good legs, and double it's sales over it's lifetime.

Let's give it a week to see what happens to it's legs before passing a lot of judgment.

As for hardware, the 360 is experiencing diminishing returns, as the average sales per week is picking up. Every console sees this. If a Wii game launched, and sold a similar number of software units, it may not see a boost at all. If you look at the hardware sales after a 'big' software title launches, you can see that as the HW install base grows, it takes more and more software units pushed to equal a hardware spike. This is normal, folks.

Now, having said that, I think the 360 should see hardware sales over 10k for the next 2 months, or so. 2009 is blowing every other year out of the water for the 360.

Blue Dragon sold well for so long because it was THE game that you wanted for the 360. If you wanted a 360, then youd also have to get BD with it, and everyone who had a 360, this was like Halo or MGS, it was THE game your system needed. I too am really shocked that ToV sold another 10k units since start of the year, but it still wasnt a BD sized game



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Euphoria14 on 24 February 2009
Egghead said:
mrstickball said:
I think people are forgetting the possibility of this game having good legs. ToV and BD both had awesome legs, so it's possible that a supply-strapped SO4 could see very good legs, and double it's sales over it's lifetime.

Let's give it a week to see what happens to it's legs before passing a lot of judgment.

As for hardware, the 360 is experiencing diminishing returns, as the average sales per week is picking up. Every console sees this. If a Wii game launched, and sold a similar number of software units, it may not see a boost at all. If you look at the hardware sales after a 'big' software title launches, you can see that as the HW install base grows, it takes more and more software units pushed to equal a hardware spike. This is normal, folks.

Now, having said that, I think the 360 should see hardware sales over 10k for the next 2 months, or so. 2009 is blowing every other year out of the water for the 360.

Blue Dragon sold well for so long because it was THE game that you wanted for the 360. If you wanted a 360, then youd also have to get BD with it, and everyone who had a 360, this was like Halo or MGS, it was THE game your system needed. I too am really shocked that ToV sold another 10k units since start of the year, but it still wasnt a BD sized game

 

It also helped that Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey were created by a genuis of a man named Hironobu Sakaguchi.

Not to mention another genuis of a man named Nobuo Uematsu.



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Egghead on 24 February 2009
Euphoria14 said:
Egghead said:

I didnt say youre a fanboy, im just saying you keep looking at the bads 360 and good for PS3. I have a PS3, its a great console, thats settled

As for Tales, it is the third best selling Tales game ToS1 and ToS2, this is a common known fact by now

 

I am sorry if you feel that way but I happen to enjoy my 360 as well and think it is a great system. I picked one up on Lost Odyssey launch day and have it exclusively for RPGS, both JRPG and WRPG. Check 360 threads though, I tend to say great things about it other than when I was annoyed at customer service in regards to my Live account.

As for common known fact, I am a big Final Fantasy fanboy and I can't even tell you what sales are for each.

 

Fair enough = P As for SE legs, i just think people are looking at it wrong

A game sells 100k first week, 500k lifetime has 'good legs' but a game that sells 1 million first week and 1.25m lifetime doesnt, that however change the fact that both games are commercial successes



Rei on 24 February 2009
Euphoria14 said:
Egghead said:
mrstickball said:
I think people are forgetting the possibility of this game having good legs. ToV and BD both had awesome legs, so it's possible that a supply-strapped SO4 could see very good legs, and double it's sales over it's lifetime.

Let's give it a week to see what happens to it's legs before passing a lot of judgment.

As for hardware, the 360 is experiencing diminishing returns, as the average sales per week is picking up. Every console sees this. If a Wii game launched, and sold a similar number of software units, it may not see a boost at all. If you look at the hardware sales after a 'big' software title launches, you can see that as the HW install base grows, it takes more and more software units pushed to equal a hardware spike. This is normal, folks.

Now, having said that, I think the 360 should see hardware sales over 10k for the next 2 months, or so. 2009 is blowing every other year out of the water for the 360.

Blue Dragon sold well for so long because it was THE game that you wanted for the 360. If you wanted a 360, then youd also have to get BD with it, and everyone who had a 360, this was like Halo or MGS, it was THE game your system needed. I too am really shocked that ToV sold another 10k units since start of the year, but it still wasnt a BD sized game

 

It also helped that Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey were created by a genuis of a man named Hironobu Sakaguchi.

Not to mention another genuis of a man named Nobuo Uematsu.

   I dont think this was of any help, actually. Japanese gamers have shown they dont really care about either Sakaguchi or Uematsu as long as those dont work with SE. Lost Odyssey is the lowest selling 360 jRPG-exclusive in Japan and Mistwalker's DS efforts have been completely ignored in the region (ASH, Blue Dragon DS)

   The reason why Blue Dragon has shown such a strong legs is because it was probably seen as some kind of a "launch title" for 360. Having a cartoon based on it and Akira Toriyama as a character designer also helped, obviously.

 



Euphoria14 on 24 February 2009
Rei said:
Euphoria14 said:
Egghead said:
mrstickball said:
I think people are forgetting the possibility of this game having good legs. ToV and BD both had awesome legs, so it's possible that a supply-strapped SO4 could see very good legs, and double it's sales over it's lifetime.

Let's give it a week to see what happens to it's legs before passing a lot of judgment.

As for hardware, the 360 is experiencing diminishing returns, as the average sales per week is picking up. Every console sees this. If a Wii game launched, and sold a similar number of software units, it may not see a boost at all. If you look at the hardware sales after a 'big' software title launches, you can see that as the HW install base grows, it takes more and more software units pushed to equal a hardware spike. This is normal, folks.

Now, having said that, I think the 360 should see hardware sales over 10k for the next 2 months, or so. 2009 is blowing every other year out of the water for the 360.

Blue Dragon sold well for so long because it was THE game that you wanted for the 360. If you wanted a 360, then youd also have to get BD with it, and everyone who had a 360, this was like Halo or MGS, it was THE game your system needed. I too am really shocked that ToV sold another 10k units since start of the year, but it still wasnt a BD sized game

 

It also helped that Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey were created by a genuis of a man named Hironobu Sakaguchi.

Not to mention another genuis of a man named Nobuo Uematsu.

   I dont think this was of any help, actually. Japanese gamers have shown thay dont really care about either Sakaguchi or Uematsu as long as those dont work with SE. Lost Odyssey is the lowest selling 360 jRPG-exclusive in Japan and Mistwalker's DS efforts have been completely ignored in the region (ASH, Blue Dragon DS)

   The reason why Blue Dragon has shown such a strong legs is because it was probably seen as some kind of a "launch title" for 360. Having a cartoon based on it and Akira Toriyama as a character designer also helped, obviously.

 

 

Helped me hop on board though so that at least makes one. I am a fan of Uematsu's work.

Toriyama also does teh DragonQuest art doesn't he? That I could see as being a nice help.



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PostModGuru on 24 February 2009

That was a great move my MS. Frankly, I never considered japanese market penetration as an effect of securing this title. Saw it more as a stab @ Sony/Bone to 360 Gamers. Every little bit helps.