Super R-Type was in the European launch and came to the US Region very quickly.  If you bothered to actually look at the wiki page instead of blindly copy/pasting, you'd see that.

The rest is all subjective in terms quality.  It's interesting to note that the number of launch titles seems to be going up each generation.

I know, Super R-Launch came out in September 91'. Less than 1 Month away from Launch, doesn't excuse the fact it missed out launch date. If I was to include that in it, I should also include Dead or Alive 4. Which was released on December 29th, 05. A little bit over 1 month. Closest game to release date for the xbox 360. I'm only tryin' to be fair.

It hit the Europe launch date along with 3 other mediocre titles.  You can't just toss them out especially when stickball is over there cherry picking the Japanese SNES launch while using the US 360 launch.  All launch games that made it across regions should be included.  Otherwise you're just ignoring facts that don't help your argument (like stickball).

100% agree, SE i corrupted cus of MS and the "we want to appela western audience" syndrome, i bet the chop FF13 to fit it in a 360 and now they say both versions will be equal

The reason I'm "Cherry" picking is cause I'm picking what appears to be the strongest SNES launch vs the Strongest Xbox 360 launch. If you want to compare the european launch titles, it looks even worse in the case of the SNES cause like you said. It came out with Super R-Launch along with 3 other Mediocre titles. Super Tennis (Sept 1991 North American Release), Super Soccer (May 1992 North American Release), and F-Zero (Aug 1991 North American Release).

But if it will make you happy here's a "full" launch list of all the titles that were ever released with the SNES.

• Super Soccer
• Super Tennis
• Super R-Type
• F-Zero
• Super Mario World
• Pilotwings

If I wanted to be actually completely unbiased, I could have compared the first launch of the Super Fanicom in Japan agaist the First Launch of the Xbox 360 in north america. Which is even worse for the SNES in comparison to launch titles, since Japan's super fanicom launch only included 2 of those games. Can you guess which ones?

Anyway, we've heavily derailed the thread here.

It hit the Europe launch date along with 3 other mediocre titles.  You can't just toss them out especially when stickball is over there cherry picking the Japanese SNES launch while using the US 360 launch.  All launch games that made it across regions should be included.  Otherwise you're just ignoring facts that don't help your argument (like stickball).

Do you understand why I used the JP SNES launch and the US 360 launch?

They were both the first territories the systems launched in. The SNES launched 9 months later in the US, so I ask: How is that a good comparison? You can't just randomly throw launches that were many months, and in some cases (NES) years after their initial launch in their home territory.

The Xbox 360's first and home territory is the United States. The SNES home territory is Japan. How is that cherry picking? Or do you want a more apt comparison of the 9 month lag between launches, and go with the X360 AU launch which launched with Oblivion, Full Auto, DOA4, Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter, Prey, The Outfit, and the majority of the US launch titles? That gives the 360 an insane lineup with Oblivion, CoD2, and GRAW being in the 90% area, garnering similar recognition to most of the other AAA launches of the SNES and the like - not to mention the other 2 dozen titles that the SNES's US launch didn't have.

So I ask: What kind of comparason did you want? JP launches for every system, regardless if that was their home territory? All US launches, even the ones that took place years after their debut in foreign countries? I was trying to be as even-handed as possible: Use home territory launches, unless US launch was within 3-4 months of home territory launch, which was the case for the N64.

I actually didn't realize that.  I was under the impression that the launch dates were closer together for some reason.

If that's the case then comparing the JP SNES launch to the US 360 launch is more than fair.  I stand corrected.

Microsoft makes a lot of horrific products that many people can't avoid using.  The original Xbox was a pretty amazing console for what it did, what it represented, and what it was capable of doing (with the right mods).  The 360 took most all the great things the original did and, for the most part, did them better (when it didn't RRoD).  Even now Microsoft is working to improve Live and give its customers even better service.

Even better is Microsoft's effect on the industry.  Can you imagine this gen were it just Sony and Nintendo?  What would the PSN look like?  It probably wouldn't be much better than it was originally.  Microsoft's presence has pushed Sony to compete in terms of features and while it's rough on Sony, it's great for PS3 owners as it means they get a better product overall.