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Kos-mos on 19 February 2009
girou98 said:
(This is a strategy to getting into the japanese gaming market where microsoft sell crappy (in the country where video-games has it`s origin).)

Do you really know where and when videogame was born?

 

Correct me if I`m wrong. Thank you :)



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Jereel Hunter on 19 February 2009
Kos-mos said:
Jereel Hunter said:
Kos-mos said:

I don`t like microsoft. Why?

Well let`s take a look at a few things with microsoft:

They`ve created Windows. I like this OS, but they are using more of their time to fight piracy than making it more user-friendly (like when usa are attacking iraq).

They`ve produced the big halo-series. I`ve played number 1. Great game. Simple story. Simple game. For simple people. That have simple minds. Which actually are the majority in the world.

Halo is the game with highest marketing budget ever. Is that why it sell so much? Of course it is. In some countries and to simple people, you can sell almost everything when you have money and a good marketing staff.

Great job microsoft. Didn`t have to put much effort in earning a few penny from the simple people.

So let`s move on to the consoles microsoft created. The first xbox was, and still is, and I really mean a ugly designed console. Good games with a horrible designed controller. But again marketing is all that is needed to sell something. Again microsoft did really well without putting much effort in it.

Then came the noisy xbox360. And I have to admit....it`s hard to, but I bought it. I let the hype of next-gen console gaming drive me, and I bought the damn thing. Microsoft had really been great on the marketing area. Who wanted to play the FANTASTIC launch-games on 360? Dammit there`s even a Perfect Dark sequel! I loved the first. This must be as good, or even better. I couldn`t wait to get home to try it out.  I opened the packade smiling. "Wow what a next-gen badass. Hmm, the controller is a little bit clumsy, but ok, still it`s a NEXT-GEN console." It took me two hours too understand that microsoft had lied to me.

1. A next-gen console shouldn`t sound like a vacuum cleaner.

2. A next-gen console shouldn`t die (RROD. My friend called me for having errors on he`s new console on launch     day).

3. A next-gen console should have launch games that are above average.

4. A next-gen console should have a controller you can play all types of games with.

5. Of course it`s powerfull, but that`s about it.

I sold the console after a week. I played through King Kong in one day. I played through DOA which was then a dead series. And I played through Perfect Dark. Perfect Dark. Hmm...That name brings back so many memories. BUT WHAT THE HELL DID RARE DO TO PERFECT DARK???!!

One of the greatest games ever created was destroyed by Rare.....or was it Microsoft? Microsoft bought Rare. Top developers left Rare. Rare haven`t created an A+ game since then. Rare is dead. The classics from SNES and N64 are dead. We will never see them again. All because of greedy microsoft. But for once they`re strategy failed.

The latest strategy from microsoft is buying games from Square-Enix. Yes they have. This is a strategy to getting into the japanese gaming market where microsoft sell crappy (in the country where video-games has it`s origin). Why oh why didn`t the Japanese fall for microsft`s marketing strategy? Maybe it`s the demand for quality? Who knows.

 Why do people support microsoft? Is it because it is a us company? Is it because it`s a western company? Is it because of they`re marketing? Surely it can`t be that they make a+ games. Maybe it`s because of the simple games?

Thanks for reading

And remember this thread is not made to offend xbox players. If they like falling for microsoft`s marketing tricks and simple gaming it`s ok. And this is no PS3 and Nintendo is better thread even if they are.

This is just an opinion where I use my liberty of speech. It is common in the us nowadays?

Ps: Sorry for my bad grammar.

A simple post, written by a simple man.

Halo's story is easy to understand... is that what you mean by simple? because Halo 1 had a top notch story.

It's good that you take the time to complain about the 360's launch woes in it's 4th year, when it's generally considered to have fixed it's quality issues, and now has a stellar lineup.

 

 Thank you for yer post. As I said earlier simple isn`t necceseraly a bad thing. And when did a top notch story become simple to understand?????

When? the first time a top notch story was told? Being difficult to understand has NOTHING to do with quality. if you write a good story, and it's difficult to understand, it says more about the storyteller than the story. Halo felt like an already established franchise when Halo:CE started. It dropped you into this story in motion, and told the story as you played. The game had less than 1 minute of cut scenes - virtually the entire story was experienced.

 

Oh, and incase you didn't realize this - it's harder to tell the entire story from the viewpoint of a character. It's real easy to show what's happening via cutscenes, whereas Halo had to make the entire story take shape from the viewpoint of one guy. Simple to understand, but the game was an impressive feat in every aspect.



TRios_Zen on 19 February 2009

You are entitled to your own opinion, but you state it as if it was fact; it may be fact to you, but generalizing that to the entire population of the gaming world is the hallmark of a simple mind.

To wit; The Halo universe has a rich backstory that has spawned numerous books and supported 2 sequels and 2 spin-offs... You reduce that to a "simple story" because it suits your argument...

In fact, I'd wager, you wrote this op, just to air your petty hate, and resort to condescending remarks or cries of "OPINION" when things don't go your way. How ORIGINAL!



NightstrikerX on 19 February 2009
Words Of Wisdom said:
Stan85 said:
mrstickball said:
Kos-mos said:
mrstickball said:

The X360 had a good launch lineup:

Perfect Dark Zero
Call of Duty 2
Kameo
Condemned
+ Sports HD games (I still play Madden 06 to this day).

I dare you to find another console launch that had 4 good games.

You never bothered answering my question of finding another console that had 4 good games at launch.

OWNED

mrstickball loaded his question pretty hard.  The consoles with the best launch titles typically have one or two amazing ones and a series of crap or 2/3 launch titles.  For example, the NES' launch with just The Legend of Zelda and Mario Bros. brutally crushes the 360's in terms of quality, but all it had to compliment those was a bunch of sports games which may have been good for the time but.... ymmv.

Overall, I think the SNES is probably the console to beat for launch lineups.  Its launch titles included Super Mario World, Super Pilot Wings, F-Zero, and Super R-Type (though Super R-Type was slightly delayed for the US).  Compared to the SNES, the 360 is stunningly mediocre.  Even the PS2's launch line-up (which is easily more diverse than the 360's IMO) can't top the SNES'.

SNES Launch

U.S. launch:  Aug 13th, 91'

Vs.

Xbox 360 Launch

U.S. launch: Nov, 22nd 05

Disclaimer - Games listed are titles that were released on launch day. Titles released within 6 months are not included. This is copied and pasted from Wikipedia. Thank god for Wikipedia.

Alright, I've been racking my brain to end the embarrassment but to be honest. MrStickBall did give us a difficult, if at all possible task. FOUR amazing launch title games. I can't seem to find any. I think the PS2's launch titles may come close its a tough call.



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badgenome on 19 February 2009
Kos-mos said:
girou98 said:
(This is a strategy to getting into the japanese gaming market where microsoft sell crappy (in the country where video-games has it`s origin).)

Do you really know where and when videogame was born?

 

Correct me if I`m wrong. Thank you :)

LOL. I'm not sure how I missed it, but video games were invented in that country on which you heap scorn all the time. You know, *******.

 



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Kos-mos on 19 February 2009
TRios_Zen said:
You are entitled to your own opinion, but you state it as if it was fact; it may be fact to you, but generalizing that to the entire population of the gaming world is the hallmark of a simple mind.

To wit; The Halo universe has a rich backstory that has spawned numerous books and supported 2 sequels and 2 spin-offs... You reduce that to a "simple story" because it suits your argument...

In fact, I'd wager, you wrote this op, just to air your petty hate, and resort to condescending remarks or cries of "OPINION" when things don't go your way. How ORIGINAL!

Thanks for the post. Well I am talking about video-games. No books. What haven`t gone my way?

 



Leonidus on 19 February 2009

Lol, I hate MS, but this is a little O.T.T



Kos-mos on 19 February 2009
badgenome said:
Kos-mos said:
girou98 said:
(This is a strategy to getting into the japanese gaming market where microsoft sell crappy (in the country where video-games has it`s origin).)

Do you really know where and when videogame was born?

 

Correct me if I`m wrong. Thank you :)

LOL. I'm not sure how I missed it, but video games were invented in that country on which you heap scorn all the time. You know, ******.

 

Fine. But the origin of quality video-games. Ground-breaking video-games. Super Mario Bros. 1 is still number one video-game of all time by gaming-sites and people across the world. So if you would written it another way, please correct me. Thank you :)

 



Words Of Wisdom on 19 February 2009
NightstrikerX said:
Words Of Wisdom said:

mrstickball loaded his question pretty hard.  The consoles with the best launch titles typically have one or two amazing ones and a series of crap or 2/3 launch titles.  For example, the NES' launch with just The Legend of Zelda and Mario Bros. brutally crushes the 360's in terms of quality, but all it had to compliment those was a bunch of sports games which may have been good for the time but.... ymmv.

Overall, I think the SNES is probably the console to beat for launch lineups.  Its launch titles included Super Mario World, Super Pilot Wings, F-Zero, and Super R-Type (though Super R-Type was slightly delayed for the US).  Compared to the SNES, the 360 is stunningly mediocre.  Even the PS2's launch line-up (which is easily more diverse than the 360's IMO) can't top the SNES'.

SNES Launch

U.S. launch:  Aug 13th, 91'

Vs.

Xbox 360 Launch

U.S. launch: Nov, 22nd 05

Disclaimer - Games listed are titles that were released on launch day. Titles released within 6 months are not included. This is copied and pasted from Wikipedia. Thank god for Wikipedia.

Alright, I've been racking my brain to end the embarrassment but to be honest. MrStickBall did give us a difficult, if at all possible task. FOUR amazing launch title games. I can't seem to find any. I think the PS2's launch titles may come close its a tough call.

Super R-Type was in the European launch and came to the US Region very quickly.  If you bothered to actually look at the wiki page instead of blindly copy/pasting, you'd see that.

The rest is all subjective in terms quality.  It's interesting to note that the number of launch titles seems to be going up each generation.



mrstickball on 19 February 2009
Kos-mos said:

Mr. Game and Watch had Mr. Game and Watch A++++

Nes had mario. A++++

Snes had mario A++++

N64 had mario A+++++

Ps2 had (if I remeber correctly) ICO A+++++

Gamecube had (if I still remember correctly) Resident Evil 1 A++++++

Wii had Wii Sports A++++++

Xbox 360 had..... some b`s and c`s and d`s and e`s and even some f`s.

 

Lets break it down by posting something a bit more insightful:

Nintendo Entertainment System - JP Launch

Yeah. A+++ launch, right? The NES had an extra 2 years of gathering games before it's US launch. Not a good lineup, IMO. Arguing the US lineup would also be like arguing the X360 lineup after 2 years vs. the NES US launch. There'd be no comparison for depth.

SNES, JP Launch:

Very good launch. However, it certainly lacked in the 'quanitity' department. Only 2 games at launch is not very good. Yes, they were 2 very good games, but it's kind of hard to argue 2 good games vs. a system like the 360 that saw 7-9 good games.

N64, US Launch:

Mixed launch. On one hand, both games were GREAT. However, you miss the whole part where the N64 had almost no games for it's first year on market in the US. The N64 had one of the worst lineups in terms of 'what next?'. We got only a small handful of titles after the 2 games it launched with. Yes, I know SM64 and Pilotwings 64 were great, but what do you do once you've beat them? Beat them another 10 times until Turok comes out?

Playstation 2, JP Launch:

Fairly poor launch. Only SFEX3 and RRV ever had any sort of 'quality' status attached to them. The US launch was very good, but it had an extra 7 months of development time, so it's kind of hard to argue the validity of a launch when you've had over 6 months to produce better software for. The PS2 US launch, however, was great, given the depth and breadth of it. Then again, it'd be hard to argue the 360's lineup after 6 months in the US, too.

Gamecube, US Launch:

OK launch, but nothing significant outside of Rogue Squadron 2, and Luigi's mansion (which had mixed reviews, and was below 6-7 X360 titles by comparison). Most of it was/is multi-plat and minor exclusives.

Xbox 360, US Launch:

Very good launch, I think. You had CoD2, Condemned, Kameo, PDZ, PGR3, Q4, and RR6 for console exclusives, and also had a major listing of multi-plats available at launch, thanks to EA. This doesn't include the 10+ XBLA games available at launch. Of which, Geometry Wars and Outpost Kaloki X were very good.

Playstation 3, US Launch:

Good, but weaker than the 360 launch. Suffers from a big dearth of good exclusives. Resistance and Ridge Racer 7 are the only prominent titles.Only 2 PSN titles.

Nintendo Wii, US Launch:

Large launch, but lots of shovelware. Wii Sports, Trauma Center, Red Steel, Zelda TP, and Excite Truck are all very good titles. The Wii launch is the only one I think that one could argue is on the level of the 360, as Zelda TP and Wii Sports pack-in are 2 pretty good titles, along with a decent bit of multi-plats.One big note is the horrible reviews the lineup got. Only Zelda: TP and Trauma Center (for exclusives) are over 80% of GameRankings or Metacritic Aggregate. Compared to 7 for the 360.

There you have it. Pick your favorites. But looking at it from a review & quanity point of view, the X360's debut ranks among the best ever since it had the most exclusives, and highest rated ones as well.

I mean, if you want to say that having 1 excellent game trumps having a very strong library, feel free to. But I tend think that having a large library allows more gamers from different backgrounds to enjoy the console. Sales tend to disagree, as consumers flocked to the Playstation 1 over the N64 due to the PS1 having a far larger library, despite the fact that the N64's library, at the top, was better in overall quality.

 

 

 

 



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