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Personally I consider any RPG scores at 8 or over to be surprising. They generally get slammed pretty hard. I remember getting into the game magazine scene on the PS1 and seeing RPGs I liked repeatedly getting slammed, one particular case being SaGa Frontier. I thought the game was pretty awesome when I discovered, and noticed that it was repeatedly getting slammed by reviewers that just weren't "getting it." This pretty much went for anything not named Final Fantasy. It was around that point that I realized that relying on other people's opinions to form my own game library would lead to disaster at best.



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mrstickball said:
A quick rundown of GI reviews for JRPGs this gen:

90 - Blue Dragon
85 - Lost Odyssey
85 - Valkyria Chronicles
85 - Persona 3
83 - Disgaea 3
83 - Eternal Sonata
83 - The World Ends With You
80 - Infinite Undiscovery
80 - Persona 4
73 - Tales of Vesperia
73 - Folklore
70 - The Last Remnant
70 - Culdcept Saga
60 - Enchanted Arms
60 - Phantasy Star Universe
53 - Kingdom Under Fire: Circle of Doom

Looking at the list, you notice 2 glaring things:

1) Their reviews for new IPs seem to go in the general direction of average scores
2) Their reviews for established IPs are the exact opposite. Horrible scores for ToV, and Persona 3/4

Take of it as you will, but those Tales of Vesperia and Persona scores are a pretty bad mark on them. I'll wait for the GameTrailers and RPG Fan scores, as well as IGN. GT and RPGF are the best 2, IMO.

And FYI, the ToV review they gave was only 0.25 higher in both the primary and second opinion than this SO4 score. So I really wonder...

 

 stickball why did you put persona 3 and 4 in that list they arent on ps3/360/wii therefore invalid.



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Put them in for posterity since both titles have come out since next-gen started.



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wow...i was expecting anything between 8-9 from the previews and gameplay videos i saw.....this is a surprise....damn...



hmm.. that's about the impression I had of SO4s cutscenes (from videos) - the writing and execution seems to be subpar, which quite frankly is a huge no-go in JRPGs



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outlawauron said:
selnor said:
outlawauron said:
I don't about scores, but these same reviewers still IU is a better game!!!!

And please selnor, take your crap elsewhere. You know RPG Fan (that specialist site that you said you use) gave Final Fantasy XII a 97/100.

 Hey bro why the below trousers shot? It's only my opinion of FF.

When I go to those specialist sites I'm referring to the members reviews, not the eitors cut reviews. RPGfan and RPGamer have great reviews from public gamers who manage to get the game early. These are the reviews are generally adhere to. Became friends with some of the regulars there to. Generally most FF games dont do so highly in the core JRPG gamers on those sites. I can fully understand those new to JRPG's since say FF7 thinking that all FF's are god games, but to many who have played JRPG's from say the Nes days FF is beaten by many other games.

It's only my opinion dude. I tend to trust the hardcore JRPG reviews rather than media scripted editors hype reviews.

I know. I'm just tried of people not liked Final Fantasy because it has Final Fantasy in it. It's not cool to the hardcore types since it's popular anymore. At least that's the way it seems to me.

And trusting member reviews over critics review is nice, but you trust those who have a similar opinion of yours.

Sorry bro. In no way was I forcing my opinion on anyone. It was meant in a discussion way. :)

There are FF games I like and some I dont. And FF6 is one of the best JRPG's Ive ever played. I just dont personally take face value that all of them will be good. :)

 



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When it comes to JRPG's(any console) and often Wii games reviewers gives the games -1 just for being what they are.

So a 8 and 8.75 isn't so bad



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Game Informer gave Lost Odyssey an 8.5. That game is at least a 10.




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