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Declan on 17 February 2009

Using the data about Wii Sports on the Nintendo channel, it seems that around 7.5% of UK Wii owners use the channel and allow their gaming data to be used.  (The figures suggest around 350,000 Wii Sports owners, and since Nintendo announced that there are 5 million Wii (and therefore Wii Sports) owners in the UK as of 31/12/08, this suggests the percentage given.)  The data for Disaster:DOC suggests around 1,500 owners.  If that number is, as with Wii Sports, only 7.5% of the actual number of players, that sugests a sales figure in the UK of around 20,000.

Obviously there is a huge margin of error with that 20,000 figure - as a more core game, it's probable that more than 7.5% of Disaster owners use the Nintendo channel, and that the figure is actually lower than 20,000.  Whatever way you look at it, Nintendo's unloved baby (zero advertising other than on the Nintendo channel itself) has clearly flopped over here.  A shame, too - I've just finished it and, despite a number of flaws, I found it really enjoyable.  Don't understand how so many reviews gave it a sub-7 score - a solid 8 for me.



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megaman79 on 17 February 2009

^^^^ @reviewers,  people are stupid, welcome to earth

Im guessing more than 20k but who knows if we'll ever actually find out. Anyone else calculated across all of Pal region using Nintendo channel?



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woopah on 17 February 2009

i really loved this game. i do think Nintendo made a mistake in not pushing this. it would really help change thier mainstream image. instea dim seeing adverts for wii sports



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megaman79 on 17 February 2009

they could have respected the developer more. I swear these distributors just don't give a shit about some games.



“When we make some new announcement and if there is no positive initial reaction from the market, I try to think of it as a good sign because that can be interpreted as people reacting to something groundbreaking. ...if the employees were always minding themselves to do whatever the market is requiring at any moment, and if they were always focusing on something we can sell right now for the short term, it would be very limiting. We are trying to think outside the box.” - Satoru Iwata - This is why corporate multinationals will never truly understand, or risk doing, what Nintendo does.

Majin-Tenshinhan on 17 February 2009

Yeah , I loved this game a lot. I'd give it a 8.5. It had it's flaws, but I really think it was a fine game. I hope it does better when it gets to the US.



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Hephaestos on 17 February 2009

i'm waiting for a price drop to buy this one (in the UK as £ is low)



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Chrizum on 17 February 2009

What do you mean flop? The game sold over 100k with Japan and Others combined for sure.

Wait, what? That's terrible...



TWRoO on 17 February 2009
megaman79 said:

^^^^ @reviewers,  people are stupid, welcome to earth

Im guessing more than 20k but who knows if we'll ever actually find out. Anyone else calculated across all of Pal region using Nintendo channel?

Here are the total figures for UK, France and Germany and Spain:

UK - 1,659
FRA - 4,641
GER - 2,229

SPA - 1,838

This is for the week ending Monday 2nd Feb though.... the last week I didn't get Wii game data except for Germany. Also Benelux is generally a better selling region than Spain so it may show the game too, but I haven't got recent data for it.

For reference, the previous week for Germany was this:

w/e 26th Jan - 2,118

So it is increasing by about 100 each week, but that is mostly due to new Nintendo channel users. (although some will be new buyers)

The total users for the above regions:

UK - 375,455
FRA - 235,777
GER - 193,552

SPA - 99,599

(And for the previous week in Germany: 189,789.

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So the game is actually quite popular in France compared to other regions, and not so popular in the UK.


But yes, your second paragraph i entirely correct Declan.... it is not so simple as multiplying using the same ratio as the channel users: VGC sales... we can only make very rough guesses.

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Using the more accurate figures... I get NC users being about 7.15% of UK total Wii owners.
If that is directly translated onto Disaster we get 23,190 copies of the game, but I am doubtful it is that high for the same reason you stated.... so at a rough guess I would say between 12k and 15k in the UK.

Using the same method for France and Germany gets this:

France - 64,567 (my guess would be about 40k)
Germany - 25,551 (my guess around 18-20k)

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I think in total we would see across PAL regions, about 120k for the game. with some boundaries being it is almost certain to have sold more than 80k, and highly unlikely to have sold more than 160k.



TWRoO on 17 February 2009
KylieDog said:
What makes you think core gamers use the Nintendo channel more than others?


I ignore nearly all of that stuff personally.

More likely to have a Wii connected to the internet is the main factor. And more willing to download stuff too.

 



megaman79 on 17 February 2009
TWRoO said:
megaman79 said:

^^^^ @reviewers, people are stupid, welcome to earth

Im guessing more than 20k but who knows if we'll ever actually find out. Anyone else calculated across all of Pal region using Nintendo channel?

Here are the total figures for UK, France and Germany and Spain:

UK - 1,659
FRA - 4,641
GER - 2,229

SPA - 1,838

This is for the week ending Monday 2nd Feb though.... the last week I didn't get Wii game data except for Germany. Also Benelux is generally a better selling region than Spain so it may show the game too, but I haven't got recent data for it.

For reference, the previous week for Germany was this:

w/e 26th Jan - 2,118

So it is increasing by about 100 each week, but that is mostly due to new Nintendo channel users. (although some will be new buyers)

The total users for the above regions:

UK - 375,455
FRA - 235,777
GER - 193,552

SPA - 99,599

(And for the previous week in Germany: 189,789.

-----------------

So the game is actually quite popular in France compared to other regions, and not so popular in the UK.


But yes, your second paragraph i entirely correct Declan.... it is not so simple as multiplying using the same ratio as the channel users: VGC sales... we can only make very rough guesses.

-----------------

Using the more accurate figures... I get NC users being about 7.15% of UK total Wii owners.
If that is directly translated onto Disaster we get 23,190 copies of the game, but I am doubtful it is that high for the same reason you stated.... so at a rough guess I would say between 12k and 15k in the UK.

Using the same method for France and Germany gets this:

France - 64,567 (my guess would be about 40k)
Germany - 25,551 (my guess around 18-20k)

-------

I think in total we would see across PAL regions, about 120k for the game. with some boundaries being it is almost certain to have sold more than 80k, and highly unlikely to have sold more than 160k.

 

Thats actually really promising considering the abysmal Nintendo f--kup that it was



“When we make some new announcement and if there is no positive initial reaction from the market, I try to think of it as a good sign because that can be interpreted as people reacting to something groundbreaking. ...if the employees were always minding themselves to do whatever the market is requiring at any moment, and if they were always focusing on something we can sell right now for the short term, it would be very limiting. We are trying to think outside the box.” - Satoru Iwata - This is why corporate multinationals will never truly understand, or risk doing, what Nintendo does.