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emilie autumn on 16 February 2009
Words Of Wisdom said:
Soriku said:

Because I believe I can make solid judgments :P Plus I've already watched the OVA...the story doesn't seem as good as the others.

And because most Tales fans wouldn't agree with that.

Just a small clue, Tales games don't have very good stories.  They're normally very flawed, full of cliches, card-board cut-out character personalities, random angst, and stupid localization mistakes.  Localization mistakes annoy me greatly though as they completely destroy the atmosphere.  Why does the guy who specializes in selling all manner of sharp, pointy killing instruments introduce himself with "Cats are cute" anyway?  Sorry but quality writing is very much lacking in the Tales games I've played.

 

i was talking about the stupid localization yesterday and how i hate hearing the horribly mistranlated words, " darkness devour ain soph aur", do guys who do the localizatoin know no english, why do the guys who do the dubbing don't correct what they are saying? and tales stories are indeed superficial, but the villians usually have a good story such as mithos or dhaos.



 

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g-value on 16 February 2009
Words Of Wisdom said:
Soriku said:

Because I believe I can make solid judgments :P Plus I've already watched the OVA...the story doesn't seem as good as the others.

And because most Tales fans wouldn't agree with that.

Just a small clue, Tales games don't have very good stories.  They're normally very flawed, full of cliches, card-board cut-out character personalities, random angst, and stupid localization mistakes.  Localization mistakes annoy me greatly though as they completely destroy the atmosphere.  Why does the guy who specializes in selling all manner of sharp, pointy killing instruments introduce himself with "Cats are cute" anyway?  Sorry but quality writing is very much lacking in the Tales games I've played.

 

 have you played Tales of the abyss or Vesperia?



Naum on 16 February 2009

Avarage? why? ahh I see beacuse of the graphics or turnbased?, hell guess pretty every RPG I own is avarage then.



If it isn't turnbased it isn't worth playing   (mostly)

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emilie autumn on 16 February 2009
Naum said:
Avarage? why? ahh I see beacuse of the graphics or turnbased?, hell guess pretty every RPG I own is avarage then.

 

because it looks like every other RPG out there, with the generic characters with huge swords and generic monsters. the graphics are fine and turn based RPGs are the best out there, but a small tweek on the turnbased system is always welcomed



 

Words Of Wisdom on 16 February 2009
emilie autumn said:
Words Of Wisdom said:
Soriku said:

Because I believe I can make solid judgments :P Plus I've already watched the OVA...the story doesn't seem as good as the others.

And because most Tales fans wouldn't agree with that.

Just a small clue, Tales games don't have very good stories.  They're normally very flawed, full of cliches, card-board cut-out character personalities, random angst, and stupid localization mistakes.  Localization mistakes annoy me greatly though as they completely destroy the atmosphere.  Why does the guy who specializes in selling all manner of sharp, pointy killing instruments introduce himself with "Cats are cute" anyway?  Sorry but quality writing is very much lacking in the Tales games I've played.

 

i was talking about the stupid localization yesterday and how i hate hearing the horribly mistranlated words, " darkness devour ain soph aur", do guys who do the localizatoin know no english, why do the guys who do the dubbing don't correct what they are saying? and tales stories are indeed superficial, but the villians usually have a good story such as mithos or dhaos.

I agree.  The villains are usually the most interesting characters in the game for me.  While the heroes usually feel wishy washy and somewhat boring, the villains are quite interesting.  I really liked Dhaos as a villain though I can't say the same for Mithos. Mithos (and ToS in general) suffers from the fact that I played ToS and Xenosaga relatively close together timewise.  The result is that Mithos gets compared to villains like Albedo and pretty much annihilated in every area.



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Words Of Wisdom on 16 February 2009
g-value said:
Words Of Wisdom said:
Soriku said:

Because I believe I can make solid judgments :P Plus I've already watched the OVA...the story doesn't seem as good as the others.

And because most Tales fans wouldn't agree with that.

Just a small clue, Tales games don't have very good stories.  They're normally very flawed, full of cliches, card-board cut-out character personalities, random angst, and stupid localization mistakes.  Localization mistakes annoy me greatly though as they completely destroy the atmosphere.  Why does the guy who specializes in selling all manner of sharp, pointy killing instruments introduce himself with "Cats are cute" anyway?  Sorry but quality writing is very much lacking in the Tales games I've played.

 have you played Tales of the abyss or Vesperia?

I have not played Vesperia and Abyss I avoided based on the fact that quite a few people claimed it was the worst in the entire Tales franchise.



emilie autumn on 16 February 2009
Words Of Wisdom said:
emilie autumn said:
Words Of Wisdom said:
Soriku said:

Because I believe I can make solid judgments :P Plus I've already watched the OVA...the story doesn't seem as good as the others.

And because most Tales fans wouldn't agree with that.

Just a small clue, Tales games don't have very good stories.  They're normally very flawed, full of cliches, card-board cut-out character personalities, random angst, and stupid localization mistakes.  Localization mistakes annoy me greatly though as they completely destroy the atmosphere.  Why does the guy who specializes in selling all manner of sharp, pointy killing instruments introduce himself with "Cats are cute" anyway?  Sorry but quality writing is very much lacking in the Tales games I've played.

 

i was talking about the stupid localization yesterday and how i hate hearing the horribly mistranlated words, " darkness devour ain soph aur", do guys who do the localizatoin know no english, why do the guys who do the dubbing don't correct what they are saying? and tales stories are indeed superficial, but the villians usually have a good story such as mithos or dhaos.

I agree.  The villains are usually the most interesting characters in the game for me.  While the heroes usually feel wishy washy and somewhat boring, the villains are quite interesting.  I really liked Dhaos as a villain though I can't say the same for Mithos. Mithos (and ToS in general) suffers from the fact that I played ToS and Xenosaga relatively close together timewise.  The result is that Mithos gets compared to villains like Albedo and pretty much annihilated in every area.

yes, heros are the usual "lets stay together and our dreams will come true, yaii" tales of vesperia try to go the other direction with yuri, trying to make him badass adn stuff, but the result was a character you couldn't relate to and an asshole insted of a badass dude.

 



 

g-value on 16 February 2009
Words Of Wisdom said:
g-value said:
Words Of Wisdom said:
Soriku said:

Because I believe I can make solid judgments :P Plus I've already watched the OVA...the story doesn't seem as good as the others.

And because most Tales fans wouldn't agree with that.

Just a small clue, Tales games don't have very good stories.  They're normally very flawed, full of cliches, card-board cut-out character personalities, random angst, and stupid localization mistakes.  Localization mistakes annoy me greatly though as they completely destroy the atmosphere.  Why does the guy who specializes in selling all manner of sharp, pointy killing instruments introduce himself with "Cats are cute" anyway?  Sorry but quality writing is very much lacking in the Tales games I've played.

 have you played Tales of the abyss or Vesperia?

I have not played Vesperia and Abyss I avoided based on the fact that quite a few people claimed it was the worst in the entire Tales franchise.

Some people think those two are the worst in the series because they have the most complex stories and they don't understand it.

 



emilie autumn on 16 February 2009
Soriku said:
emilie autumn said:
Naum said:
Avarage? why? ahh I see beacuse of the graphics or turnbased?, hell guess pretty every RPG I own is avarage then.

 

because it looks like every other RPG out there, with the generic characters with huge swords and generic monsters. the graphics are fine and turn based RPGs are the best out there, but a small tweek on the turnbased system is always welcomed

 

In that case...most RPGs are average then.

why? its true that most rpgs have these elements but the truly magnificent ones don't, terranigma and FFVIII if you want an example try to be different are do an esplendid work on it, for a more recent example fragile on wii tries to be different and succeds in some area but not on others, it still a more memorable expierence that the other 1000 RPGs with the "chosen one" facing his destiny and killing slimes(or bunnys) for the first hours of the game

 



 

Riachu on 16 February 2009
g-value said:
Words Of Wisdom said:
g-value said:
Words Of Wisdom said:
Soriku said:

Because I believe I can make solid judgments :P Plus I've already watched the OVA...the story doesn't seem as good as the others.

And because most Tales fans wouldn't agree with that.

Just a small clue, Tales games don't have very good stories.  They're normally very flawed, full of cliches, card-board cut-out character personalities, random angst, and stupid localization mistakes.  Localization mistakes annoy me greatly though as they completely destroy the atmosphere.  Why does the guy who specializes in selling all manner of sharp, pointy killing instruments introduce himself with "Cats are cute" anyway?  Sorry but quality writing is very much lacking in the Tales games I've played.

 have you played Tales of the abyss or Vesperia?

I have not played Vesperia and Abyss I avoided based on the fact that quite a few people claimed it was the worst in the entire Tales franchise.

Some people think those two are the worst in the series because they have the most complex stories and they don't understand it.

 

I could've sworn I heard the exact opposite about Vesperia and Abyss.  Must've heard wrong.

 



 

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