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Snake612 on 15 February 2009

Everybody should know by now Nintendo never releases a sequel to their consoles. So, lets just stop trying to assume the next Nintendo console will be called the SuperWii or Wii 2. Nintendo next console is going to be something new and original. I personally think the next console should have a equal amount of hardcore games and casual games and a better online service. Also, the next console should not only have their top selling games be made from first party studios.



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HappySqurriel on 15 February 2009
Snake612 said:
Everybody should know by now Nintendo never releases a sequel to their consoles. So, lets just stop trying to assume the next Nintendo console will be called the SuperWii or Wii 2. Nintendo next console is going to be something new and original. I personally think the next console should have a equal amount of hardcore games and casual games and a better online service. Also, the next console should not only have their top selling games be made from first party studios.

 

Gameboy Advanced, Super Nintendo, the Nintendo 64 and the Gamecube could all be refered to as sequels ...



Mr Khan on 15 February 2009

a Wii HD would just be a savage market-splitting device, especially at this point. It simply doesn't click with Nintendo's strategy of making it all as easy as possible for everyone

 

A better scaling device might be useful, but they're not going to do for Wii what they did for DS, it just doesn't work with consoles. A proper successor makes much more sense, something that makes the big leap into PS360 territory (i still say a processor roughly equal to the Xenos in both architecture and power with 1 GB of integrated RAM), but uses this technology not to make things more complicated, but to make them easier. Wii Team Sports, something that takes the concept of Wii Sports but applies it to more processor-intensive Team sports, like Wii Sports Football (American) or Wii Sports Soccer. I do think they will stick with the Wii name. I think the Wii brand is actually stronger than the Nintendo brand in the mass market, and Nintendo would be foolish to abandon it, unless they deign to reinvent the wheel again with their next console



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the2bears on 15 February 2009
dark_gh0st_b0y said:
i think Nintendo knows now that the fact that Wii has not Xbox360/Ps3 graphics is an advantage, as a lot of great games did not made it to Wii because of it


imagine how big the difference in software and hardware sales could have been if Wii had Xbox360 price, along with graphics, motion controls and the software that only made it to HD consoles

so, i guess Wii 2 is coming next, and if it has same power with Xbox720/Ps4 or smth, it will be totally Nintendo, as Mario Kart, Wii Sports, SSBB, Wii Fit are too popular now so nothing can stop Nintendo

Hilarious.  You talk as if Nintendo made mistakes with this generation and need to play catch up.

 



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d21lewis on 15 February 2009

I'm rather partial to the name Wii Hard 2: Wii Harder.



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thekitchensink on 15 February 2009
puffy said:
Alterego-X said:
puffy said:
the Wii doesn't nees any of those things. HDMI?? What for? Have you seen the sales at all? The only thing the Wii needs now is software.

The successor to Wii will most likely disrupt the market again.

It'll be HD as HD will be in most homes by the time it launches. It'll aim to break down more barriers of entry into gaming. It'll try to firther the mantra that the controller is an extension of your body, NOT an extention of the console. It'll start with software that captures the attention of gamers that are beginning to get bored of gaming, people who are still lapsed and the Wii didn't pick up and the people that don't play due to the barriers of entry. Then software will come for people who have consciously said NO to the console (just like Wii Fit) and then just like DSi and the Nintendo TV service software will come that has nothing to do with gaming at all.

It'll probably have major 3rd Party support from the get go too.

 

I partially disagree. 

The next-gen Nintendo console will be disruptive, but it won't simply restart the whole process. I would say, a better term would be that it will continue the started disruption. 

 

Wii already caught a huge downmarket of New Gamers, and neither current technology doesn't allow getting lower, neither would it make sense from the disruptive strategy. They will obviously keep their downmarket, if they don't want to get disrupted, but the "next-gen console war" will take place on higher tiers.

They will go upmarket, that is different to predict how it will look like, because it will be similar to current "hardcore" gaming, but instead of the old market's values (graphics, cinematics, blood and gore,), it will be based on the new market (social gaming, short learning curve, light-hearted). 

 

The biggest challenge will be to succeed with getting deeper, and more complex games, to create higher tiers for the new market, without losing the accessability, that is their main value.

 

 

I agree with Demotruk, that the motion+ represents Nintendo's direction.

 

I can see what your saying and I thought about wording it that way as 'continuing the disruption' 

What I was getting at though is that they aren't going to make the same mistakes as they did with the SNES, more complicated gaming aimed at different market segments. They'll continue their strategy of games for everybody that continue to break down barriers.

How can they continue to break down those barriers? There is one very obvious way..

Why may a consumer not play a WiiWare game? Perhaps because they'd be required to 'clean out the fridge' - That's a barrier preventing that to occur. Perhaps perople may not want to play because they have to go about swapping disks? Nintendo could fix that. Perhaps they don't want to fiddle around with remotes and wires - well how about having your TV programming coming through your WiiHD? the Wii Remote becomes second nature to all users and the WiiHD Menu is always seen when you turn on your TV. Wires? Well if its your main box then you don't have to worry. Also they could have wireless video and audio..

There are still barriers to be broken down - they're just what I could come up with now.. 

 

About MotionPlus being Nintendo's direction.. I partially agree however Nintendo wanted the Wii Remote to be like that in the first place so it was never a part of their plan to 'reboot' the Wii Remote during the third year or anything. Why have they released the Zapper and Wii Wheel? Because it looks fun to use. Does the Wii MotionPlus look fun to use? No but it'll feel fun to use. Wii Balance Board also looks fun to use and furthers the Wii Remotes aim - The remote is an extention of your body where as in BB games, your body IS the controller. I think THAT is where Nintendo's future lies.

Do you think there's a possibility that Nintendo's next console won't even require a controller, but perhaps just some type of capture device that rests atop your TV?  Like a hyper-advanced version of the Playstation Eye?  To me, it seems that the biggest barrier to entry in gaming is the very fact that it requires a controller to be used constantly, as a opposed to a DVD, which just needs a couple of button presses to get the full enjoyment.

The idea doesn't seem too farfetched to me--Microsoft already showed a TV that you control just by pointing and making specific movements with your hands.

Of course, Microsoft themselves will probably use that for their next system, so who knows?

 



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SleepWaking on 15 February 2009
Alterego-X said:
Phoenix_Wiight said:
theyre just gona release another console all together.

IMO, the only thing it needs to do is match the next gen graphics with the xbox"720" and ps4, and nintendo is set for winning that gen.

Yeah, because "next-gen graphics" are a very important factor of winning a console war...[/sarcasm]

 

 

No not really, but it would be very beneficial for multiplatform games. That is the only weak point of the Wii now.

 



drboot on 15 February 2009
Alterego-X said:
Phoenix_Wiight said:
theyre just gona release another console all together.

IMO, the only thing it needs to do is match the next gen graphics with the xbox"720" and ps4, and nintendo is set for winning that gen.

Yeah, because "next-gen graphics" are a very important factor of winning a console war...[/sarcasm]

 

 

 

At the moment HD systems still hold the larger market share, not to mention by far the critically more acclaimed library of games.



drboot on 15 February 2009
the2bears said:
dark_gh0st_b0y said:
i think Nintendo knows now that the fact that Wii has not Xbox360/Ps3 graphics is an advantage, as a lot of great games did not made it to Wii because of it


imagine how big the difference in software and hardware sales could have been if Wii had Xbox360 price, along with graphics, motion controls and the software that only made it to HD consoles

so, i guess Wii 2 is coming next, and if it has same power with Xbox720/Ps4 or smth, it will be totally Nintendo, as Mario Kart, Wii Sports, SSBB, Wii Fit are too popular now so nothing can stop Nintendo

Hilarious.  You talk as if Nintendo made mistakes with this generation and need to play catch up.

 

 

In terms of software quality they have MASSIVE amounts of catch up to do.



HappySqurriel on 15 February 2009
drboot said:
the2bears said:
dark_gh0st_b0y said:
i think Nintendo knows now that the fact that Wii has not Xbox360/Ps3 graphics is an advantage, as a lot of great games did not made it to Wii because of it


imagine how big the difference in software and hardware sales could have been if Wii had Xbox360 price, along with graphics, motion controls and the software that only made it to HD consoles

so, i guess Wii 2 is coming next, and if it has same power with Xbox720/Ps4 or smth, it will be totally Nintendo, as Mario Kart, Wii Sports, SSBB, Wii Fit are too popular now so nothing can stop Nintendo

Hilarious. You talk as if Nintendo made mistakes with this generation and need to play catch up.

 

 

In terms of software quality they have MASSIVE amounts of catch up to do.

You're going to need to back a claim like that up ...