@puffy
Hmmm...what do you think Nintendo could possibly do to break even more barriers?....what could garner more attention than WiiSports/WiiFit have been getting?
And I think we´re a very long way off till the next major successful disruption..it took them nearly 20 years to do it again, so I´m not sure they can pull off the same effect in 1/4 of the time.
| DanielD said: Wii 2 HD. |
This.
Nintendo already said that their next console was going to be HD. So, they're not going to replace the Wii with an HD version anytime soon. Thy're going to wait 'till next-gen.
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| palancas7 said: Super Wii. |
Yeah they will release the Super Wii and after that, the Wii 1024 and after that, the Wii Cube.
But seriously the next Nintendo system will be HD with motion control and a little something that will surprise us all.
| puffy said: the Wii doesn't nees any of those things. HDMI?? What for? Have you seen the sales at all? The only thing the Wii needs now is software. The successor to Wii will most likely disrupt the market again. It'll be HD as HD will be in most homes by the time it launches. It'll aim to break down more barriers of entry into gaming. It'll try to firther the mantra that the controller is an extension of your body, NOT an extention of the console. It'll start with software that captures the attention of gamers that are beginning to get bored of gaming, people who are still lapsed and the Wii didn't pick up and the people that don't play due to the barriers of entry. Then software will come for people who have consciously said NO to the console (just like Wii Fit) and then just like DSi and the Nintendo TV service software will come that has nothing to do with gaming at all. It'll probably have major 3rd Party support from the get go too. |
I partially disagree.
The next-gen Nintendo console will be disruptive, but it won't simply restart the whole process. I would say, a better term would be that it will continue the started disruption.
Wii already caught a huge downmarket of New Gamers, and neither current technology doesn't allow getting lower, neither would it make sense from the disruptive strategy. They will obviously keep their downmarket, if they don't want to get disrupted, but the "next-gen console war" will take place on higher tiers.
They will go upmarket, that is different to predict how it will look like, because it will be similar to current "hardcore" gaming, but instead of the old market's values (graphics, cinematics, blood and gore,), it will be based on the new market (social gaming, short learning curve, light-hearted).
The biggest challenge will be to succeed with getting deeper, and more complex games, to create higher tiers for the new market, without losing the accessability, that is their main value.
I agree with Demotruk, that the motion+ represents Nintendo's direction.
Alterego-X said:
I partially disagree. The next-gen Nintendo console will be disruptive, but it won't simply restart the whole process. I would say, a better term would be that it will continue the started disruption.
Wii already caught a huge downmarket of New Gamers, and neither current technology doesn't allow getting lower, neither would it make sense from the disruptive strategy. They will obviously keep their downmarket, if they don't want to get disrupted, but the "next-gen console war" will take place on higher tiers. They will go upmarket, that is different to predict how it will look like, because it will be similar to current "hardcore" gaming, but instead of the old market's values (graphics, cinematics, blood and gore,), it will be based on the new market (social gaming, short learning curve, light-hearted).
The biggest challenge will be to succeed with getting deeper, and more complex games, to create higher tiers for the new market, without losing the accessability, that is their main value.
I agree with Demotruk, that the motion+ represents Nintendo's direction. |
I can see what your saying and I thought about wording it that way as 'continuing the disruption'
What I was getting at though is that they aren't going to make the same mistakes as they did with the SNES, more complicated gaming aimed at different market segments. They'll continue their strategy of games for everybody that continue to break down barriers.
How can they continue to break down those barriers? There is one very obvious way..
Why may a consumer not play a WiiWare game? Perhaps because they'd be required to 'clean out the fridge' - That's a barrier preventing that to occur. Perhaps perople may not want to play because they have to go about swapping disks? Nintendo could fix that. Perhaps they don't want to fiddle around with remotes and wires - well how about having your TV programming coming through your WiiHD? the Wii Remote becomes second nature to all users and the WiiHD Menu is always seen when you turn on your TV. Wires? Well if its your main box then you don't have to worry. Also they could have wireless video and audio..
There are still barriers to be broken down - they're just what I could come up with now..
About MotionPlus being Nintendo's direction.. I partially agree however Nintendo wanted the Wii Remote to be like that in the first place so it was never a part of their plan to 'reboot' the Wii Remote during the third year or anything. Why have they released the Zapper and Wii Wheel? Because it looks fun to use. Does the Wii MotionPlus look fun to use? No but it'll feel fun to use. Wii Balance Board also looks fun to use and furthers the Wii Remotes aim - The remote is an extention of your body where as in BB games, your body IS the controller. I think THAT is where Nintendo's future lies.
There's one more disruption we might be able to see beginning this generation, the Wii could disrupt TV with internet TV.
Also, the real barrier to WiiWare etc. is the internet itself. A hell of alot of people either don't have a reasonable connection, or don't have the technology skills to connect the Wii up in the first place. The lack of a hard drive is only a problem for people who are already beyond those larger barriers, and have filled their Wii with some games/channels already.
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Another console called the Super Wii, duh.
Nintendo still doomed?
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i think Nintendo knows now that the fact that Wii has not Xbox360/Ps3 graphics is a disadvantage, as a lot of great games did not made it to Wii because of it
imagine how big the difference in software and hardware sales could have been if Wii had Xbox360 price, along with graphics, motion controls and the software that only made it to HD consoles
so, i guess Wii 2 is coming next, and if it has same power with Xbox720/Ps4 or smth, it will be totally Nintendo, as Mario Kart, Wii Sports, SSBB, Wii Fit are too popular now so nothing can stop Nintendo
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Neither/Both ...
If you look at the ultra-small PC's that are on the market today (eeeBox), and imagine how these are going to advance over the next 4 years, it should be very clear that some very powerful energy efficient hardware will be very affordable at the end of 2012 when Nintendo is launching their next generation system. Now, I'm reluctant to make any predictions about how powerful their next system will be, but it should easily be able to produce some very nice graphics at 720p.
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