The Helmet and the armor are seperated from each other, therefore he can still snap his neck. He also would not have to get his full arm aroundhis helmet, just a good enough brace and catch him off guard.
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Khuutra said:
Without the suit he can still fall from a mile up and not break any bones. His bones are harder than steel and the muscles supporting his neck are more than five times stronger than a normal person's. They will not break. More, his senses are three to five times sharper than a normal person's. Snake will not be sneaking up on him. @CONCERNING THE BOOKS: The books are still canon and evyrthing in them is acknowledged as canon by Bungie. Yes, they count, whether or not they are reflected in-game. |
Regarding his neck, a neck can be broken quite easily, so his muscles are 5 times stronger, then it will take force to twist it. as for his senses sure, he might sense snake for a moment, but then he would turn around and see nothing (mean while Snake is blended in with a wall or some object) then he'd surprise him.
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Can anyone here(especially americans) tell me what makes mc special? Why is he a good character creation? Whats the story with him? Does he have a story? Does he have human emotions that you can compare with? Or is he just a man in a spacesuit with a weapon? Is that enough to make him special?
I`ve played halo 1, and the story sucked. Trying to compare Snake and mc is the same as trying to compare a mcdonalds burger with a real homemade salmon dinner. But then again americans love mcdonalds.....
| Kos-mos said: Can anyone here(especially americans) tell me what makes mc special? Why is he a good character creation? Whats the story with him? Does he have a story? Does he have human emotions that you can compare with? Or is he just a man in a spacesuit with a weapon? Is that enough to make him special? I`ve played halo 1, and the story sucked. Trying to compare Snake and mc is the same as trying to compare a mcdonalds burger with a real homemade salmon dinner. But then again americans love mcdonalds..... |
MC is special b/c he makes Blackwater guys look like pansies.
| Kos-mos said: Can anyone here(especially americans) tell me what makes mc special? Why is he a good character creation? Whats the story with him? Does he have a story? Does he have human emotions that you can compare with? Or is he just a man in a spacesuit with a weapon? Is that enough to make him special? I`ve played halo 1, and the story sucked. Trying to compare Snake and mc is the same as trying to compare a mcdonalds burger with a real homemade salmon dinner. But then again americans love mcdonalds..... |
Wow, if you thought the story in Halo 1 sucked... I'd hate to see your review on all the other shooters stories. Halo 1's story, for a shooter, was leaps and bounds above anything at the time. Most shooters are just, ok the world is ending, go save it, but this one was unique, had great twists, never got dull, affected emotions, inspire awe. Seriously... to call Halo's story awful is to call every single shooter awful, because Halo's story is a lot better than the majority, including Metal Gear.
solid snake snake isnt old... some disease made him age like 20 years ahead of what he acctually is. The suit just allows him to be able to do what he used to do before he got the disease
Gamer4eva said:
Fuck proof, u just know Snake would kill MC if we were comparing them from the games. Its factual evidence that Liquid is the superior clone but yet it is always Snake that beats him, despite Snake being the crappiest version of Big Boss. So we don't need factual statistics or what ever because from the games, Snake is just better. Snake defies all odds. - He beats Cyborg Ninja in a fist fight * Considering he beats a guy who can stop Metal Gear Rex (like a 100 tonne monster machine) dead in its tracks shows that it isnt all about strength (which is what MC has *supposedly* by the boat load) - He beats a guy and a woman (MANTIS) who can read people minds * This guy & woman could read Snake every move, but yet he still beats him. (THAT DEFIES THE LAWS OF LIFE ITSELF) It's a game... if they didn't let him win, it'd suck. Just like in movies when mind readers fail. - He takes down numerous Metal Gears MC takes down numerous, and I mean hundreds to thousands, of tanks, ghosts, banshees, turrets, and the occasional Scarab (which is like combining 20 metal gears into one). - He beats superior versions of himself as i stated before (I BET YOU MC COULDN'T BEAT A SUPERIOR VERSION OF HIMSELF) I'll take that bet and raise you that Snake could not beat a superior version of himself had that version not been mentally unstable and suffering. Oh and the MC beats Brutes/Elites/Hunters, all of which are much larger than him, much stronger, and he slaughters them by the hundreds. - He can run up on people and kill them with a tin of beans without GOD himself even noticing (MASTER OF STEALTH) Ah, but God notices all. And the Master Chief is also a master of stealth and improvisation. He could kill snake with a paper clip, or his pinky toe, or any tiny object that would make Snake look weak like he is compared to the MC. - He beats an immortal (IMPOSSIBLE BUT NOT FOR SNAKE) Since when are immortals impossible to kill? Immortality just means they never age. They can still die because of wounds to their perfect flesh, just as anyone else can. - He shows immense determination (MICROWAVE SCENE ANYONE) - Snake can dodge bullets ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7L0lyNbBvUI ) - Snake can survive up to 300 GHz worth of microwaves for period of time (2.5Ghz is what a normal microwave has) Master Chief can absorb bullets, dodge them, do whatever. He also shows much more determination considering he outruns like 5 nuclear sized explosions, jumps into battle alone with thousands of enemies, absorbs the impact of a drop from 20 miles high. I mean from the games, MC dies from getting shot at a couple of times, so on that basis his armour doesn't do shit all. Snake on the other hand doesn't even wear armor to now where near the extent of MC and yet i bet you he can take more bullets. Snake would destroy him. Again, it's a game, and just like if your character couldn't win it would suck, also if you are invincible, it would suck. They have to make you able to die. Also, it takes like literally 50 clean bullets to kill the chief. With his recharging shields and thick armor, the only way you will die playing on the normal/easy difficulty is if you stand there and take it, or make idiotic charges without concern. Snake could only take one bullet, and he'd be dead. Boom headshot. And realistically only 5-6 bullets anywhere else would bring him down. MC would destroy him. |
Seriously.... of course the game is going to be designed to allow Snake to win. It'd be a pretty retarded game if the main characted couldn't overcome people who are stronger than him.
I can't believe this thread is still going and how stubborn some of you are. Do I have to repeat the scenario to you again? MC and Snake are on equal ground. If you don't know the back story to the MC then go back and read earlier in this thread. Everyone that read up has agreed that the MC would win in a straight up fight.
Snake can be killed by an ordinary soldier in the game does that mean that I should argue that Snake isn't a amazing fighter because of that? It would be stupid not to have balance in a game because that would lead to a very boring game.
I don't know anything about Kratos so I'm not ignorant enough to say MC could bet him in a fight, however some of you come into this thread without any prior knowledge on the MC and then call us fanboys for arguing he would win.
Seriously how many plasma shots can Snake take before going down, I'm going to say one.
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| Nirvana_Nut85 said:
Regarding his neck, a neck can be broken quite easily, so his muscles are 5 times stronger, then it will take force to twist it. as for his senses sure, he might sense snake for a moment, but then he would turn around and see nothing (mean while Snake is blended in with a wall or some object) then he'd surprise him. |
Most human necks can be snapped easily.
Master Chief's bones, however, cannot break. Period. You could run his naked neck over with a tank tread, and it would kill him because it crushed his windpipe, but it would not break his neck. There is not enough force in Solid Snake's entire body to break the ceramic ossified bones in the Chief's neck.
Master Chief can also see in night vision, in infrared, in thermal waves...
And, oh yeah, he has an anti-personell radar.
Snake can't hide from him.
Assuming that both of them have the same equipment (and in this scenario they do), there are two possibilities:
1. They both have the Mjolnir armor. To clarify, a normal human, no matter how strong, dies from trying to use this armor. An ODST (a physical equivalent to Snake from about 500 years in the future) who wears the armor and tries to move his arm has the movement amplified to the point that it breaks his arm, and then the force of his reactions to the break - his intake of breath, the slightest twitch - are amplified to the point that it ends up pulverizing all of his bones and organs, killing him horrible. Snake is tough, maybe the toughest unaugmented human specimen, but the Spartan-IIs are the only ones who can wear that armor and live.
2. They both have someo ther collection of equipment, in which case Master Chief is still so physically superior to Snake that it barely matters. He's trained in stealth tactics (the books reveal that he fights primarily using stealth in urban warfare environs, more or less like Snake only with less hiding in plain sight and more believable stealth), he's better with guns, he's faster, he's stronger, he's a better hand-to-hand fighter.
There is no scenario in which Master Chief is going to lose to Snake. I like Snake better, but that is the way it is.
@kos-mos:
Master Chief is very human and likable, you just have to dig into the books to see more of him. The games show enough - the second and third in particular - but the books really delve into who he is.
Him being likeable has nothing to do with why I'm arguing with him.
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