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FKNetwork on 11 February 2009

Hard call but its obvious both are going to bring in a decent profit....



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perpride on 11 February 2009

Half the people in here defending Microsoft's pride will most likely not even buy GTAIV DLC.

I'm looking forward to KZ2 more but I will def. be buying GTADLC too.



Bitmap Frogs on 11 February 2009
dbot said:
Bitmap Frogs said:

But T2 will have to repay those 50M$ from the DLC revenue.

I think this may be part of the confusion.  Take Two removes a 25 million dollar liability from their books when they deliver each episode to MS.  They don't need to wait to see what the sell through is.  In fact, there is no indication that Take Two will participate in the revenue at all.  The repayment is the delivery of the software, there is no cash repayment.

 

 

You mean Take 2 won't see any revenue from the DLC?

In such a case, MS didn't pay for exclusivity. They funded development and basically had T2 play second-party, developing the two DLC packs while MS pays for development and reaps the profits.





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Jereel Hunter on 11 February 2009
dhummel said:
BxN said:
gebx said:
Sony - $50 million
KZ2 campaign - 6 to 8 hours

MS - $50 million
L&D Campaign - 10 to 12 hours
Expension #2 - ??


As a gamer I would say MS!!!

 

More like:

KZ campaign:

9 to 12 hours

 

KZ multiplayer:

hundreds of hours.

 

 

Sony wins.

 

Really? You plan on playing KZ2 for hundreds of hours? Ugh. Good luck with that.

 

Well, Hundreds may be pushing it, but a good FPS is great for burning up tons of time! Have a friend over and play Co-Op, or have few friends over, and play split screen matches. Good times.



Bitmap Frogs on 11 February 2009
Jereel Hunter said:
dhummel said:
BxN said:
gebx said:
Sony - $50 million
KZ2 campaign - 6 to 8 hours

MS - $50 million
L&D Campaign - 10 to 12 hours
Expension #2 - ??


As a gamer I would say MS!!!

 

More like:

KZ campaign:

9 to 12 hours

 

KZ multiplayer:

hundreds of hours.

 

 

Sony wins.

 

Really? You plan on playing KZ2 for hundreds of hours? Ugh. Good luck with that.

 

Well, Hundreds may be pushing it, but a good FPS is great for burning up tons of time! Have a friend over and play Co-Op, or have few friends over, and play split screen matches. Good times.

 

Does Sony release PSN activity statistics like MS does (or used to) with XBL?

 





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PelshyX5499X334279YZ on 11 February 2009

I assume Killzone 2 will sell near 850,000 copies and DLC will sell near 2,000,000 downloads. If you look at how much Sony will make per copy and subtract that from the costs of development would that be greater than the $10,000,000 dollar loss MSFT will most likey get? (with those sales assumptions)



dbot on 11 February 2009
Bitmap Frogs said:
dbot said:
Bitmap Frogs said:

But T2 will have to repay those 50M$ from the DLC revenue.

I think this may be part of the confusion.  Take Two removes a 25 million dollar liability from their books when they deliver each episode to MS.  They don't need to wait to see what the sell through is.  In fact, there is no indication that Take Two will participate in the revenue at all.  The repayment is the delivery of the software, there is no cash repayment.

 

 

You mean Take 2 won't see any revenue from the DLC?

In such a case, MS didn't pay for exclusivity. They funded development and basically had T2 play second-party, developing the two DLC packs while MS pays for development and reaps the profits.

I think that is possible.

Edit:  It is also possible that the 50 million was an upfront payment and MS will need to split the revenues.  If it is just a exclusivity purchase then I would say Sony spent it better.

 



Thanks for the input, Jeff.

 

 

Wyku on 11 February 2009

One neat thing I saw in regards to the GTAIV DLC is that they're actually making DLC cards that you will be able to buy in-store. I think this could add some sales for people with their head in the sand about the new DLC coming out and make them take notice, or perk people's interest for those who hadn't picked the game up yet if they see it for $20 and can grab a discounted new or used game for say $40.



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PelshyX5499X334279YZ on 11 February 2009

MSFT is pushing the DLC without losing much money (free Xbox live for 5 days) but Sony is spending millions in advertising. MSFT can just advertise on Xbox live and they will be fine.



Bitmap Frogs on 11 February 2009
dbot said:

I think that is possible.

Edit:  It is also possible that the 50 million was an upfront payment and MS will need to split the revenues.  If it is just a exclusivity purchase then I would say Sony spent it better.

 

 

In other words, we don't know jack about the deal. Speculation would then be unsound, wouldn't it?





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