ouch......we all know what happened to the Saturn b/c of this mentality

There are quite a few similarities between the Sony of today and the post-Genesis SEGA, in their inability to get Western and Japanese managements to play nice, their financial problems, the way they designed and marketed their consoles

Of course, you can't build that directly due to Sony's massive non-gaming interests. Sony could come roaring back as a company even if the PS3 and PSP continue to struggle as they have (though its doubtful. Brand name is becoming less relevant in the realm of consumer electronics, especially in these times)

There has always been a lot of similarities between the PS3 and the Sega Saturn ... Esentially, you have two (amazingly) expensive systems with unconventional and difficult to develop for architectures which sell to 1/4 to 1/3 the level of the previous console released by the manufacturer.

The reasons why the PS3 has performed (in absolute terms) so much better than the Saturn did is because the industry has grown a lot since the 16 bit era (80 Million SNES and Genesis consoles compared to over 170 Million PS2, Dreamcast, XBox and Gamecube systems), inflation means that the PS3 isn't as expensive as the Saturn was (in real terms), and the PS2 was a far more successful system in its time than the Genesis ever was (which means that there is more residual support for Sony than there was for Sega).

there are games, there is support: i simply dont understand the
need to claim weird things.

exactly, the neo geo was aimed squarely at those that wanted basically an arcade in a console housing and it was marketed as such.

that is why hardware was manufactured for it for 7 years and games were produced for 14 years (the last release was samurai shodown 5 special in 2004)

plus the neo geo wasn't difficult to program for per se, it was basically a souped up genesis (both used a 68000 processor, like everything else under the sun at the time, and z80 coprocessor, the neo geo's was just significantly faster) with a vastly superior graphics and sound processors

 .. anyone else notice a pattern between all the consoles you mentioned?? (well except maybe for atari)

@Pristine: Xbox.

@Gebx: Depends on which Atari are we talking about. Gamers before mid-80:s think 2600 and gamers after mid-80:s think 5200 (not to talk about the gamers from 90:s and Jaguar).

@Masschamber: Wasn't Neo Geo hardware used in arcade machines quite a lot at the time?

neo geo home console was the exact same hardware as snks arcade hardware the neo geo mvs, so in effect it was arcade hardware repacked and sold for home use

Hmm?

Sony's Playstation 3 kicked ass. It is the greatest system that ever failed. Anybody that had a PS3 back in the day will tell you how awesome it was. It was ahead of it's time with it's online strategy, had a ton of great games and concept games (LBP?), fantastic multiplayer, it was just a kick ass system. And unfortunately it had every circumstance against it. Sony was flopping as a company, it had expended all of it's gamer loyalty on failed expansions and systems, and the hype was all on the Wii. It was a kick ass system....and it failed.

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