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Get off the guys back

Its not his fault Sony gave birth to an abortion of a console.

Plenty of DEVS have nothing but bad mouth for the PS3

Its Ill concieved in many ways and in many respects as regards a game console not fit for purpose.

Its a commercial world and Valve feel that producing a game for Sony is a poor commercial decision thats their issue. They will live or die by the results.

Get over yourselves. You cant force other people to support your console.

Last gen Nintendo were in exactly the same position but their fanboys didnt moan and wail about it. They just played quality first party games.

Sony Fanboys should take a lesson from history and do the same.



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Fei-Hung said:
u can't compare graphics from a 3rd person to a fps, but even if you did, facts will tell you after playing the demo, the graphics are just a technical masterpiece.

Ive read plenty of reviews and one preview from a 360 site. 99% of them state very clearly that nothing on a console has graphics like kz2 and this includes the xbox site. The xbox preview was on n4g if you wish to check it out.

Research done? Yes!
Outcome: best graphics on a console!

Braid is still prettier.

 



Tease.

Cypher1980 said:
Get off the guys back

Its not his fault Sony gave birth to an abortion of a console.

Plenty of DEVS have nothing but bad mouth for the PS3

Its Ill concieved in many ways and in many respects as regards a game console not fit for purpose.

Its a commercial world and Valve feel that producing a game for Sony is a poor commercial decision thats their issue. They will live or die by the results.

Get over yourselves. You cant force other people to support your console.

Last gen Nintendo were in exactly the same position but their fanboys didnt moan and wail about it. They just played quality first party games.

Sony Fanboys should take a lesson from history and do the same.

Sony fans have a sense of entitlement, they never knew defeat before this gen. That's my impression and it makes perfect sense so I'll go with it.

Things should be better by the time the next gen starts. Give them time to accept defeat and its consequences (some already have).

 



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I agree, even a monster of pride like MS learned from its previous defeat, this time it's Sony that must learn that winning twice in a row isn't a sufficient condition for invincibility. But IMVHO Sony is already learning it, it's just that die-hard fanboys have much more difficulty to do it (otherwise they wouldn't be fanboys).



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COKTOE said:
@Garnett.

Troll account (check)- check again.

Personal insults (check)- I suppose, but somehow I doubt Gabe Newell has any idea that my comment's exist, somewhat nullifying their impact.

Banned (almost) - Almost means nothing. I don't like the man, so I insulted him. That's about as bad as I will get around here.

 

So let me get this straight...

 

You insult a game developer because he might of said some negative things about a  GAME CONSOLE,When i dont believe he said anything negative in the first place,its just the PS3 fanboys saying "Hey this game isnt on PS3,lets make up some story and get everyone to hate him!he just stated why he didnt put the game on PS3?



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Personally, I think Valve are both increadible and lazy developers. Half-life, portal and L4D are all AMAZING games both in my opinion and the general public. But the fact that they don't want to invest the time in learning the PS3 architecture, the fact that newell in the past didn't want to work on consoles before saying they were "too hard to develope for" and that their graphics engine haven't improved since HL2 just gives me the impression that they are increadible but lazy. They make games that are fun, inventive, and atmospheric but generally lack a little something imo. L4D I also thought didn't give me nearly enough content for my buck and I was sorely disapointed in that.




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the ps3 has far more support then the gc ever had, you can't even compare the 2. Yes, people have said it's hard to program with, but they didn't say "we are too good for it". Ea, capcom, SE, Sega, Bethesda and many more have supported it and rather then make excuses, they have over come the cjalkange. Some have even created better versions on the ps3.

Therefore, saying the console is going to die due to it's challanging architecture is far fetched and ignorance. If other devs can do it these days without a problem, valve has no excuse.

It's like a gamers saying " oh no, from 4 buttons on the nes, we have gone to over a dozen buttons on a controller with the addition of joypad and joystick in one. Oh no, that's too difficult and challanging, I refuse to play and any system with such controller will fail and it's a monstrosity". It's like saying ninja gaiden is a shit game and shouldn't sell because it is far too challanging.

You either take on the challange or you run away from it. We all know the cell is a challange but it is far from impossible.



Fei-Hung said:
the ps3 has far more support then the gc ever had, you can't even compare the 2. Yes, people have said it's hard to program with, but they didn't say "we are too good for it". Ea, capcom, SE, Sega, Bethesda and many more have supported it and rather then make excuses, they have over come the cjalkange. Some have even created better versions on the ps3.

Therefore, saying the console is going to die due to it's challanging architecture is far fetched and ignorance. If other devs can do it these days without a problem, valve has no excuse.

It's like a gamers saying " oh no, from 4 buttons on the nes, we have gone to over a dozen buttons on a controller with the addition of joypad and joystick in one. Oh no, that's too difficult and challanging, I refuse to play and any system with such controller will fail and it's a monstrosity". It's like saying ninja gaiden is a shit game and shouldn't sell because it is far too challanging.

You either take on the challange or you run away from it. We all know the cell is a challange but it is far from impossible.

Whats the point of putting the game on PS3?

 

1.The game is 4.5 gigs

2.The game dosent use alot of CPU power

3.Graphcis are ok

4.PS3 version would get bugs and what not,framerate drop.

 



@Garnett: Newell wasn't very polite, he basically said that he doesn't develop for PS3 because he consider it crap. Other developers found it maybe not very easy, but by no means impossible, so questioning his attitude isn't so wrong.



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Please take note, nothing wrong with the 360 games. Gears of war is still one of my all time favorite games and I prefer forza to gt5p at the moment. It's not about being a faboy etc, it's about saying "stop making excuses". There is a BIG difference and one must be blind or ignorant to miss it.