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So the haters have changed their arguement from, "Killzone 2 will fail, Killzone 1 sucked lulz" , to " Killzone 2 is Overhyped" and "Sony paid them". Its funny watching them change their arguements to suit their cause. Just wait till "How many Killzone 2 sales were bundeled? Lulz" which of course if they said that they would be hypocrites as apparently "Killzone 2 Won't be a System seller"



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Deneidez said:
Pristine20 said:

So we're officially allowed to apply what Mark Matthews (not sure if I got that right) says on youtube to all x360 fans now right? Get real man. Attack people for what they said not what chameleons said on www.ps3sells100milperweek.com

If its all over internet, its hard to miss. I am not talking about just one guy whos insane and telling things that are not true. Lets check for example wikipedia article about killzone. Oo... Theres 'halo-killer' again. Can you now say it didn't happen? Try googling killzone + halo killer. :)

Killzone received a great deal of hype in June 2003 when video game websites began releasing previews and rumors about the game, having been dubbed a "Halo-killer".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killzone

Oh, but wikipedia and google are evil sites who worship evil MS!

@Euphoria14

Lol, I am not attacking vgchartz ppl only. I am just saying that theres way too much hype and expectations with Sony games. Also I am trying to say that fans tend to be like mindless flocks of sheep who follow their leader whatever happens. ;)

Killzone 1 was labeled a Halo killer by a gaming journalist.  This thread is about Killzone 2.

Google Alan Wake if you want to see some unjustified hype.  We know nothing about the game and have been shown a one and a half minute pc based trailer without game play.  You can also search under Too Human, Halo 3, Gears of War 2, The Last Remnant, Huxley...  All of these games had plenty of pre-release hype.  Some of them lived up to it, and others did not.

 



Thanks for the input, Jeff.

 

 

appolose said:
Pristine20 said:
appolose said:
Pristine20 said:
appolose said:
Not to add to the fire here, but here's a post of Kantor saying that many people here had claimed that KZ2 would be a Halo-killer.

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?id=1692556

I post this to give a bit of weight to the claim of KZ2 overhype, being that it came from someone who is obviously not a PS3 hater.

 

 My interpretation of that post:KZ2 would be a very good game, possibly better than Halo, but nothing can "kill" Halo. How does that = "KZ2=Halo Killer?"

Don't spin things. Leave it to PR.

He says, in the first and second paragraph, "Saying Killzone 2 will be a fantastic game, and saying it will be a Halo killer, are two entirely different things.  I have personally never claimed the latter, but many people here have. Yes, it will be fantastic. Yes, it has a good chance of being better than Halo. But that's not the point. The whole _ Killer phrase shouldn't be used until AFTER a game has been released".

His post wasn't hyping it.  My point was to show he thought others were.

 

 

 And those people who said so could be from SDF for all you know. The point is, we still don't have names to back these outrageous claims people keep regurgitating and hurling aginst ps3 fans.

He said "here", not SDF. In any case, why would a person who is obviously not biased against the game or the console make this up?  Not that I'm saying, of course, that this proves it %100, but I would think that it would lend at least some credibility to the claims of overhype of this game.

 

Could be that Crazzyman said it to get a laugh...you never know.

 



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It is like that thread a couple months ago that was about how 360 and Wii fans tend to be more civilized than PS3 fans. Seriously, a thread about how PS3 fans are the worst on VGChartz... -_-



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CGI-Quality said:
@ appolo

What makes the amount of Killzone 2 hype unmerited, that's not making sense.

Good graphics: check
Good Gameplay: check
Good Multiplayer: check
Living up to what was promised: check

Again, how is the hype NOT merited?

 

Uhhhh.... CGI, have you not realized that yet?

The answer is : Because it is a PS3 title. :-p

*facepalm*



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CGI-Quality said:
@ appolo

What makes the amount of Killzone 2 hype unmerited, that's not making sense.

Good graphics: check
Good Gameplay: check
Good Multiplayer: check
Living up to what was promised: check

Again, how is the hype NOT merited?

Its not a Wii game? Conduits cool tho, Totally justified hype.

Euphoria14 said:
appolose said:

 

I'm still not sure why this doesn't count; why would Kantor make it up?  He has no motive to.  In avny event here is a thread discussing PS3 games and overhyping in general, in which PS3 fans and non-PS3 fans alike feel that certain PS3 games do receive an unmerited amount of hype.  

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=57458

While they could be making it up, I would think that would be highly unlikely.

 

Why is it unlikely? Because it is PS3 fans?

I see no reason why we should believe those who have no proof against those who have proof on their side.

Do explain.

 

Yes, of course, that's why it's unlikey.  A bunch of PS3 fans (not fanboys, mind you) and others feeling that this game or other PS3 games in general are too hyped.  Again, why would they make that up?  What could possibly create such a widespread concurrence but the truth of the matter?  Also, you mentioned that one side here as proof.  Proof of what? An absence of overhype?  How exactly is that proven, except by an absence of the contrary (an absence which I'm trying to fill).

Finally, and on a side note, I find it slightly ironic that no links within VGChartz have been given supporting the idea that this game received massive, widespread hatred (unless I just missed them).  Not that I doubt they could be found, mind you, it's just ironic it hasn't yet happened.



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@appolose

You seriously want someone to post anti-KZ2 posts from VGChartz in here?

You seriously think we can not find any?



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CGI-Quality said:
@ appolo

What makes the amount of Killzone 2 hype unmerited, that's not making sense.

Good graphics: check
Good Gameplay: check
Good Multiplayer: check
Living up to what was promised: check

Again, how is the hype NOT merited?

 

Overhype, not hype.  As Kantor said and many others felt in the thread link I provided, certain PS3 games have been prone to receive wild claims concerning quality (Halo-killer, as per Kantor), often well before that could even be evidenced.

@Pristine

Still, he said many, not 1.



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Euphoria14 said:
@appolose

You seriously want someone to post anti-KZ2 posts from VGChartz in here?

You seriously think we can not find any?

 

For crying out loud, I said you would be able to find them.  My only point was that one group was being lambasted to provide links, while the lambasters hadn't done that yet either.



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