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megaman79 on 28 January 2009
FishyJoe said:

Sony has to take a lot of the blame. They initially marketed the device as something that was good for playing movies and music. However, Sony in their infinite wisdom only gave the option of buying overpriced UMD movies. Who in their right mind would spend more money for a lower quality movie that they couldn't even use on any other device? It's that arrogance that motivated hackers to build tools so they could use their own legal dvds on their PSP, which in turn led to the development of game copying tools and hacking culture.

The lesson here? Don't make a device and try to rip people off with something less convenient and higher priced. There is simply no way to justify charging more for a UMD movie than a higher quality DVD movie. That's the kind of greed that causes resentment.

Not only that, the UMD uses more power than flash memory. So using the device as intended actually decreases performance.

 

Aha, well thats what Sony do. Charge more than everyone else for the same bloody thing. Hows their stock doing today?



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madkiller on 28 January 2009
ChichiriMuyo said:
bd - What you are seemingly incapable of realizing is that the vast majority of people who pirate use the money they didn't spend to buy food. They wouldn't have bought that game or another game, they'd just sit there contemplating suicide because they have to work themselves to death just to stay alive, never own anything, and don't have any form of entertainment. Again, most pirates just don't have money for games, period.

Monsta - Again, most pirates just don't have money for games, period. PC is even worse for this, because at least with consoles you have to get them for gaming. PCs are general purpose devices and therefore a little more common in the poor countries where most piracy occurs. Crysis's situation was exacerbated by the fact that everyone knew long before it launched that it wasn't going to be a good game. When devs make good games with genuine appeal it simply doesn't matter how much piracy there is, that game will sell well. There are bound to be far, far more pirated copies of San Andreas than Crysis, yet it is the best selling game on the best selling system at 17-18 million.

If their product was good, they wouldn't have had any complaints about piracy, and that's because piracy isn't the issue, they are. Even if piracy didn't exist they would have lost just as big on Crysis, there would just be less people around that could say they played it.

And after that, no one took money out of EA's pockets or products off their shelves, so it's completely incomparable to stealing from a store. Not just de facto, but legally as well.

You really need to stop trying to justify priacy. Piracy is illegal period. Piracy is also wrong morally. And I don't buy that crap that the people live in countries where they can't afford the games. If they can't afford the games how did they afford the console that costs a hell of a lot more?? And if they are really that poor then they should stop sitting on their asses playing video games and try to make more money and move to a better country.

 



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misterd on 28 January 2009
SUPABRETT said:
Fishie said:
Bonafide732 said:
speaking off of personal experience I know plenty of people including myself that proudly haven't spent a dime on any 360 games in a couple of years but own every game possible. I also know some people who do the same with the psp .. so why is it that piracy affects the psp more than the 360.. especially since its easy as pie to pirate both?? all I read around the net is how its not worth developing for the psp because of piracy..

 

 

Fuck you you fucking piece of thieving shit.

You are fucking PROUD that you have all games but havent bought a single one.
Well FUCK YOU.

I know your banned but you better not have one Emulator/rom,mp3 or movie/tv show/porn on your HD. For you to go off like that.

 

You do realize it is possible to have most of those things on your HD legally, without pirating, right?

 



Red4ADevil on 28 January 2009

Cause they made the PSP too accesible to homwbrew out of the box *unlike the DS that uses some in-home cartridges.



misterd on 28 January 2009
ChichiriMuyo said:
misterd said:
Words Of Wisdom said:
 

Right on.

Piracy is thievery. Thieves are parasites.

 

 

Theft:

1. (Law) The act of stealing; specifically, the felonious taking and removing of personal property, with an intent to deprive the rightful owner of the same; larceny.

Nothing goes missing, therefore piracy is not theft.  Not legally, not even de facto.  You'd be wise to find some wit before you go and make us read your spit.

Goods OR property. Property refers to intellectual property as well as physical goods. Try a legal dictionary next time.

 



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Shadowblind on 28 January 2009
outlawauron said:
It is much more difficult to mod a PSP than it is to mod a 360!

Not much anymore. It was back when I got into the scene, back before Dark Alex joined the scene and we had to rely on that youll-probably-break-it-if-you-try 2.0 to 1.5 downgrader. 


But now that DAX came along(Now M33 because Sony keeps threatening them) and him, Fanjita and others created the Pandora battery mod, its a ton easier to mod PSP. Thank goodness too, PSP would be absolute crap without homebrew. For 360 you have to buy the modchip and open your 360 and etc. etc.

 



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madkiller on 28 January 2009
Shadowblind said:
outlawauron said:
It is much more difficult to mod a PSP than it is to mod a 360!

Not much anymore. It was back when I got into the scene, back before Dark Alex joined the scene and we had to rely on that youll-probably-break-it-if-you-try 2.0 to 1.5 downgrader. 


But now that DAX came along(Now M33 because Sony keeps threatening them) and him, Fanjita and others created the Pandora battery mod, its a ton easier to mod PSP. Thank goodness too, PSP would be absolute crap without homebrew. For 360 you have to buy the modchip and open your 360 and etc. etc.

 

Um, to mod a 360 you don't need any chips, all you have to do is update the firmware for the dvd drive. It is not really difficult at all.

 



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Shadowblind on 28 January 2009
madkiller said:
Shadowblind said:
outlawauron said:
It is much more difficult to mod a PSP than it is to mod a 360!

Not much anymore. It was back when I got into the scene, back before Dark Alex joined the scene and we had to rely on that youll-probably-break-it-if-you-try 2.0 to 1.5 downgrader. 


But now that DAX came along(Now M33 because Sony keeps threatening them) and him, Fanjita and others created the Pandora battery mod, its a ton easier to mod PSP. Thank goodness too, PSP would be absolute crap without homebrew. For 360 you have to buy the modchip and open your 360 and etc. etc.

 

Um, to mod a 360 you don't need any chips, all you have to do is update the firmware for the dvd drive. It is not really difficult at all.

 

 

 Seriously? o_0 I thought you'd have to use a modchip. Neat.



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Kasz216 on 28 January 2009

Seriously, piracy has hurt the PSP.... like Piracy has hurt the Ipod.

It hasn't. Infact it's GREATLY boosted it's sales.

How many people would be buying Ipods right now if it was set up so it could only play Itunes songs, and CDs registered through Itunes?



Shadowblind on 28 January 2009
Kasz216 said:
Seriously, piracy has hurt the PSP.... like Piracy has hurt the Ipod.

It hasn't. Infact it's GREATLY boosted it's sales.

How many people would be buying Ipods right now if it was set up so it could only play Itunes songs, and CDs registered through Itunes?

Its the only reason I still have one. Two, actually. But its negative effect is on the software its getting. Sony shouldn't bitcha about it though, and for the most part they haven't. Threatening DAX and shutting down Lik-Sang drew the line for me, though. 

 



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