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youjiro on 26 January 2009

I hope this works out, i quite like koei games like dynasty warriors, samurai warriors (dont ask me why), kessen which i think is a great game (i think i made a thread about it like a year ago) and I'm looking forward to playing a romance of three kingdoms game on the wii when its released.

and tecmo, haven't played alot of their games except for ninja gaiden (it is them who makes this right?)

good luck to the both of them!



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arsenicazure on 27 January 2009
disolitude said:
arsenicazure said:
koei isnt really a titan.. and tecmo is in doldrums right now.. oh well cant be worse than the whole sega sammy merger

 

 You know that Sammy was the much more dominant player when the merger happened. Sega/Sammy was the second largest company (Japanese)behind Ninty (worth about 10 bill if I remmeber correctly) Today however I am not so sure...those pachinko machines are dying.

 

true.. but sammy wasnt into software so much and the arcade business was clearly dying after 2000,I never really understood that merger, I think sega bandai would have been more benficial. Tecmo and koei dont have much to offer-3 big IP's from the two comapnies isnt really that huge. Im guessing tecmo will go multiplat now though- since Koei is a PS supporter and 360 has been tecmos forte.. DOA5 on PS3? we'll find out..



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Tyrannical on 27 January 2009
Xen said:
Very good. Tecmo is very uncomfortable with HD development, and together with KOEI they'll have much more finances and devs under their disposal. I approve.

 

I think you have that backwards. KOEI is still stuck making PS2 games on the HD consoles.

Dynasty Warriors is fun, but the graphics, framerate, draw distance etc does not yell next gen to me.



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Bitmap Frogs on 27 January 2009

So, the big ones are Squeenix, Capcom, Namco-Bandai, Sammy Sega and Tecmo-Koei right now?





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disolitude on 27 January 2009
arsenicazure said:
disolitude said:
arsenicazure said:
koei isnt really a titan.. and tecmo is in doldrums right now.. oh well cant be worse than the whole sega sammy merger

 

 You know that Sammy was the much more dominant player when the merger happened. Sega/Sammy was the second largest company (Japanese)behind Ninty (worth about 10 bill if I remmeber correctly) Today however I am not so sure...those pachinko machines are dying.

 

true.. but sammy wasnt into software so much and the arcade business was clearly dying after 2000,I never really understood that merger, I think sega bandai would have been more benficial. Tecmo and koei dont have much to offer-3 big IP's from the two comapnies isnt really that huge. Im guessing tecmo will go multiplat now though- since Koei is a PS supporter and 360 has been tecmos forte.. DOA5 on PS3? we'll find out..

 

 I am pretty sure Tecmo and 360 went their separate ways when Itagaki left (and sued) the company. He was the dude wearing cowboy hats and thinking hes American no? He did make awesome games though...



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arsenicazure on 27 January 2009

yea true.. his ego was a lil too big for the rest of us..still DOA2/3/4 are the only fighting games i replay a lot(barring VF2).. ninja gaiden I havent given a chance yet.. heard its tough.. but overall TECMO is still a decent software company, much more so than koei- if not in terms of variety at least in terms of sales



Doubt is not a pleasant condition, but certainty is absurd.

owner of : atari 2600, commodore 64, NES,gameboy,atari lynx, genesis, saturn,neogeo,DC,PS2,GC,X360, Wii

5 THINGS I'd like to see before i knock out:

a. a AAA 3D sonic title

b. a nintendo developed game that has a "M rating"

c. redesgined PS controller

d. SEGA back in the console business

e. M$ out of the OS business

bardicverse on 27 January 2009

I see potential for a Ninja assasin game on the Wii using Motion +



saicho on 27 January 2009
Bitmap Frogs said:

So, the big ones are Squeenix, Capcom, Namco-Bandai, Sammy Sega and Tecmo-Koei right now?

Konami if you are only counting third party.



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Zucas on 27 January 2009

Well they aren't Gaming titans. More on the level of Midway if we related them to an American company. But its a good merger for both. Now I want to know who buys them out first haha. Nah just kidding, but I bet they merged because someone wanted to buy them out and not just SE. I'm thinking Nintendo actually.



Erik Aston on 27 January 2009

I'm not sure the merger will really help either.

Other than Nintendo, only Sega and Capcom are really in a strong position among the remaining 6 Japanese publishers. They haven't totally found their way forward, but at least they're experimenting and have some big success stories. Konami, Namco and Square-Enix are sort of fumbling around. But Tecmo-Koei is still an afterthought compared to them.

Hudson was probably the similar small Japanese publisher, and they are a big strength for Konami now.

And other than those 6, who is there?



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