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Shadowblind on 25 January 2009
RPG said:
jacks81x said:
Shadowblind said:

Again, Killzone 2 won't move hardware. It'll just be good for PS3 owners. In fact I don't think any of those games (except Star Ocean) will move hardware.

SO will move hardware in Japan, but not in the US or Europe.

 

SO4 will not do half the numbers Yakuza 3 does in Japan, I can bet on that :P

Yakuza is very big there, would have been fun for both to release at the same time but no matter, only a one week difference between the two and Yakuza 3 adverts have already started.

Wanna make a bet out of it? No stakes, just a friendly bet. If Star Ocean 4 pulls in even half the numbers Yakuza 3 will do for the first week I win(I'm talking software of course.). Otherwise, you win. Are there any other games coming out around that time for either console that will do something?

 



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RPG on 25 January 2009
Shadowblind said:
RPG said:
jacks81x said:
Shadowblind said:

Again, Killzone 2 won't move hardware. It'll just be good for PS3 owners. In fact I don't think any of those games (except Star Ocean) will move hardware.

SO will move hardware in Japan, but not in the US or Europe.

 

SO4 will not do half the numbers Yakuza 3 does in Japan, I can bet on that :P

Yakuza is very big there, would have been fun for both to release at the same time but no matter, only a one week difference between the two and Yakuza 3 adverts have already started.

Wanna make a bet out of it? No stakes, just a friendly bet. If Star Ocean 4 pulls in even half the numbers Yakuza 3 will do for the first week I win(I'm talking software of course.). Otherwise, you win. Are there any other games coming out around that time for either console that will do something?

 

 

Yeah friendly bet sounds good but I warn you now, Yakuza is huge in Japan and this one is going to be heavily advertised.



 

luisgvm on 25 January 2009
Shadowblind said:
RPG said:
jacks81x said:
Shadowblind said:

Again, Killzone 2 won't move hardware. It'll just be good for PS3 owners. In fact I don't think any of those games (except Star Ocean) will move hardware.

SO will move hardware in Japan, but not in the US or Europe.

 

SO4 will not do half the numbers Yakuza 3 does in Japan, I can bet on that :P

Yakuza is very big there, would have been fun for both to release at the same time but no matter, only a one week difference between the two and Yakuza 3 adverts have already started.

Wanna make a bet out of it? No stakes, just a friendly bet. If Star Ocean 4 pulls in even half the numbers Yakuza 3 will do for the first week I win(I'm talking software of course.). Otherwise, you win. Are there any other games coming out around that time for either console that will do something?

 

well the ff13 demo but i dont know if that counts and i think that one is in march right or april?. and demons souls but i dont think thats gonna do something.

 



Pristine20 on 25 January 2009
Shadowblind said:
Pristine20 said:
DaGreatestHope said:
I dont get why people want KZ 2 to not be successful. If it gets successful reviews people will go on how it sells like crap or if it sells well and gets subpar reviews, they will call it a crap game.

If anything KZ 2 deserves stellar success across the board. It was in development for years by a small Dutch studio. It shows that they worked very hard and put all their hearts into it and took the much negative comments on the orignal KZ to the heart.

 

^This. KZ2 is the best thing to come out of the Dutch game dev scene yet people just want to hate it because others are excited for it. The most annoying part is that most people who hate the game don't have a ps3 so the game has nothing to do with them. It looks to me that many are just desperate to tout the "360 has better games" or "highest scores on metacritic =360" mantra for the rest of this console cycle lol.

Who cares about this kind of stuff? Real gamers just want to play great games and don't spend time bashing things they know nothing about to oblivion.

So how long have you been on the internet again?

 

Dude, I'm slacking off on vgc while writing a paper, thats why. I rarely just post on vgc with no secondary activity going on at the same time. I most often post here in-between ranked matches of SCIV or when I'm forced to listen to a very boring lecture.

 



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outlawauron on 25 January 2009
Hammer-of-Dawn said:
RPG said:
Hammer-of-Dawn said:
RPG said:
DLC, a console RTS and a JRPG against a shooter on another console. I cannot see them competing, most definitely cannot see a JRPG, RTS and DLC impacting sales for a shooter and vice versa.

:/

 

 thats not the point. The point is that 360 is offering 3 major game franchises in palce of Sonys 1. MS is saying:

"PS3 is offering you a shooter, something we have plenty of. However, were offring a sandbox game, a JRPG, and a RTS. Were offering 3 game experiences in place of PS3s one.......a experience that has been done to death (fps)."

Thats what this thread means. MS is saying they offer more then just another shooter. Add Stoked and Race Pro also in February and the 360 exclusive list dwarfs the PS3 list in Q1 09.

 

Wait you are making it sound as though these games will be system sellers. They will sell well, none of them are going to caase people to buy consoles (besides a few people here who are JRPG lovers).

 

 At $200, I can see STar Ocean being a system seller, and not just in Japan. GTA: LAD may be DLC, but its also getting retail shelf space. And it being freakin GTA, one of the highest selling franchises of all time, its bound to sell some Arcade 360s. Halo Wars will sell because its Halo, maybe even snag a few former PC gamers with the $200 price and all.

Thign is, the 360s price makes those 3 games just as likely to be system sellers as KZ2 is for PS3. Why? Cause its harder to justify a purchase when the cheapest price is $400.

I think you are crazy for thinking that Star Ocean 4 will push a lot systems outside of Japan.

Where is the announcement that the DLC is also in disc form?

And why would any PC gamers want to play console RTS?



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RPG on 25 January 2009

Shadowblind if your good with that bet then it's on!



 

outlawauron on 25 January 2009

You are going to lose that bet. Yakuza 3 will double its Japanese lifetime sales but SO 4 will have a nice opening week.



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RPG on 25 January 2009

Yazuka games are front loaded, I will easily win that bet.



 

Shadowblind on 25 January 2009
luisgvm said:
Shadowblind said:
RPG said:
jacks81x said:
Shadowblind said:

Again, Killzone 2 won't move hardware. It'll just be good for PS3 owners. In fact I don't think any of those games (except Star Ocean) will move hardware.

SO will move hardware in Japan, but not in the US or Europe.

 

SO4 will not do half the numbers Yakuza 3 does in Japan, I can bet on that :P

Yakuza is very big there, would have been fun for both to release at the same time but no matter, only a one week difference between the two and Yakuza 3 adverts have already started.

Wanna make a bet out of it? No stakes, just a friendly bet. If Star Ocean 4 pulls in even half the numbers Yakuza 3 will do for the first week I win(I'm talking software of course.). Otherwise, you win. Are there any other games coming out around that time for either console that will do something?

 

well the ff13 demo but i dont know if that counts and i think that one is in march right or april?. and demons souls but i dont think thats gonna do something.

 

Awright mind as well. Your on RPG! :P

 



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SnakeEyez on 25 January 2009

Well, that was a dumb argument. He was practically arguing quantity over quality. IDK about u, but I choose quality over quantity any day. Oh and while naming exclusives games launching in Q1, he forgot about WKC in NA.