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spdk1 said:
awesome! I'm not a muslim, but reading up on religious teachings is awesome, and sometimes you find one that really clicks with you. That's how I found Gnosticism, and I was raised Catholic. Its good to read stuff for yourself rather than let peoples opinions get in your way.

This is exactly how all people should believe in their religion. By researching and reading for themselves.

 



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So, before he founded Islam, was Muhammad a christian or a jew?



Yet, today, America's leaders are reenacting every folly that brought these great powers [Russia, Germany, and Japan] to ruin -- from arrogance and hubris, to assertions of global hegemony, to imperial overstretch, to trumpeting new 'crusades,' to handing out war guarantees to regions and countries where Americans have never fought before. We are piling up the kind of commitments that produced the greatest disasters of the twentieth century.
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Tyrannical said:
So, before he founded Islam, was Muhammad a christian or a jew?

Idol worshipper with questions about faith and society in general.

 



Tyrannical said:
So, before he founded Islam, was Muhammad a christian or a jew?

 

he was actually from a Meccan tribe, so he was a polytheist AFAIK



I find all religions fascinating.. a real eyeopener to read the Qur'an, the Bible etc it's beautiful to see the differences and similarities in religion.. I don't believe in them but that won't stop me to learn from them.. I just don't like crazy extremist: islam, christianity, FFVII, etc... people should respect each other and not force their believes on others..



 

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jv103 said:
I'll check out some of the violent verses online. I got a lot of homework since school started up again :(

@coolestguyever I thought they were called kufiyas (sorry on the spelling) and that hindus wore turbans mainly because hair is something they only show in private with family. I didn't think it was required for muslim men to cover their heads, I thought it was a tradition based on their environment...

@slimebeast .. my point with what I was saying is that, following the doctrines which would be...let's say more tolerable in this life. I know the beauty of Christianity is that it has an afterlife....but to get there the idea seemed to be to reject this life. That's what I thought was different about Islam because it also has that same conceptualization of the afterlife.

 

 I understood your point.

And I agree that Christianity is a lot about "rejecting" this life - but in my opinion that makes sence (but not to reject this life as monks do though, it's not supported in the Bible that you should isolate yourself from people and only study and pray).

Christianity acknowledges that this world, this state of existence is fundamentally flawed.

 



From experience many of the muslim people I know are kind , peaceful people for the most part but they don't tend to respond well to critcisms of islam and have gone on the aggresive verbally or even physically in response.



Like any religion, Islam has both peaceful/tolerant and violent/intolerant passages. If you follow it, you're pretty much free to hold any range of views as some section of the scripture will support you.

So, the Muslims that believe in private and don't force others to convert or obey their religious law are fine; and those that do are not. I do find it funny how both groups think they are right and the scripture 100% supports them.



spdk1 said:
Tyrannical said:
So, before he founded Islam, was Muhammad a christian or a jew?

 

he was actually from a Meccan tribe, so he was a polytheist AFAIK

 

 Well, I know the area was full of polytheists, but was he and his family? I would think that he already worshiped God before then.



Yet, today, America's leaders are reenacting every folly that brought these great powers [Russia, Germany, and Japan] to ruin -- from arrogance and hubris, to assertions of global hegemony, to imperial overstretch, to trumpeting new 'crusades,' to handing out war guarantees to regions and countries where Americans have never fought before. We are piling up the kind of commitments that produced the greatest disasters of the twentieth century.
 — Pat Buchanan – A Republic, Not an Empire