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Bolshack on 22 January 2009
Vectorferret said:
GPU is graphics processing unit. They are incorrectly using it to mean graphics card. They are interchangeable in general speech, but technically the GPU is just one part of the graphics card.

 

thanks,well i'm going to use a HD 4870 X2 card and a phenom II x4 processador..

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Viper1 on 22 January 2009
Senlis said:
It was my understanding that most games do not use 4 cores. Are there any new games coming out that are rated to use them? Otherwise, you might as well go with a fast dual core.

There is almost 2 dozen out right now with another 2 dozen or so set to release this year.

 



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Words Of Wisdom on 23 January 2009
Viper1 said:
Words Of Wisdom said:
Viper1 said:
Those are much different numbers than the review I just saw.


Phenom II X4 940 BE vs Core 2 Quad Q6600

Unreal Tournament 3 - 6.9% faster
Crysis - 1% faster
World in Conflict - 4.2% faster
Supreme Commander - 8.2% slower

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/phenom-ii-940,2114-10.html

You're reading that page wrong.

It's 6.9% slower for instance.

In a comparison such as this, the faster/slower connotations are in reference to the first object in a list.  Thus as listed the Phenom II X4 BE is 6.9% faster than the Core 2 Quad Q6600 in Unreal Tournament 3.

 

You're still misreading it.

The list says...

                                                   i7                   Q6600
Unreal Tournament 3    7.1%    Faster    6.9%    Slower

The i7 is 7.1% faster and the Q6600 is 6.9% slower.  Unless you'd like to start arguing that the Q6600 is faster than the i7, you are wrong.



Viper1 on 23 January 2009

WoW, it's saying the the Q6600 is 6.9% slower than the Phenom II X4 BE (and the the i7 is 7.1% faster). Read the page again.



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Words Of Wisdom on 23 January 2009
Viper1 said:
WoW, it's saying the the Q6600 is 6.9% slower than the Phenom II X4 BE (and the the i7 is 7.1% faster). Read the page again.

Obviously.  That's what I've been saying this whole time.



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ameratsu on 23 January 2009
Slimebeast said:
It's a very powerful combination (Phenom II X4 920 + 4870X2).

Don't be tricked by the store to put more money on the processor and less money on the GPU.

The GPU should always cost A LOT more than the processor in a good gaming system or else something is wrong.

 

lol my cpu was $200 and video card was $50, and it seems to run modern games just fine, though i haven't tried crysis. Imo it made more sense to cheap out on the video card (8800gs), upgrading that a year or two from now, than it did to cheap out on the cpu. Also, i don't have the luxury of running 4xxx ati cards as they are not supported in osx86, meaning I am at the whim of apple and whatever they actually put into real macs for my graphics card choices. As far as I know, the best video card you can currently run in osx86 is a 9800GTX.



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Senlis on 23 January 2009
Viper1 said:

There is almost 2 dozen out right now with another 2 dozen or so set to release this year.

 

Do you have a  link to a list of games that support quad core?

 




 

Soleron on 23 January 2009
ameratsu said:
Slimebeast said:
It's a very powerful combination (Phenom II X4 920 + 4870X2).

Don't be tricked by the store to put more money on the processor and less money on the GPU.

The GPU should always cost A LOT more than the processor in a good gaming system or else something is wrong.

 

lol my cpu was $200 and video card was $50, and it seems to run modern games just fine, though i haven't tried crysis. Imo it made more sense to cheap out on the video card (8800gs), upgrading that a year or two from now, than it did to cheap out on the cpu.

If you spent $50 on that CPU with the same graphics card you would be getting the same framerates, I promise you. Similarly, if you'd spent $50 on the CPU and $150 on the graphics you would get twice the framerate.

 



ameratsu on 23 January 2009
Soleron said:
ameratsu said:
Slimebeast said:
It's a very powerful combination (Phenom II X4 920 + 4870X2).

Don't be tricked by the store to put more money on the processor and less money on the GPU.

The GPU should always cost A LOT more than the processor in a good gaming system or else something is wrong.

 

lol my cpu was $200 and video card was $50, and it seems to run modern games just fine, though i haven't tried crysis. Imo it made more sense to cheap out on the video card (8800gs), upgrading that a year or two from now, than it did to cheap out on the cpu.

If you spent $50 on that CPU with the same graphics card you would be getting the same framerates, I promise you. Similarly, if you'd spent $50 on the CPU and $150 on the graphics you would get twice the framerate.

 

 

gaming isnt the only thing i use my computer for, and every game i've played so far has just fine framerates. besides, i spent more on the cpu because i like long upgrade cycles, so the only thing im going to have to upgrade between now and my next full blown upgrade is the video card. The 8800gs will easily hold me over till i can get a substantially better video card for ~$100.

 



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Slimebeast on 23 January 2009

Yeah, what Soleron said.

Of course it also depends if you upgrade the CPU and GPU independent of each other, how much each component "should" cost:

Like, say that you plan to keep the CPU for 3 years but upgrade the GPU already after 1.5 years (which is my personal preference), then you don't necessairly have to put as much money on each GPU - but instead the combined money spent on the GPUs will still be a lot more than on the one CPU.

So, two version for a PC that you want to keep alive for 3 years and be able to run the latest games:

Version 1 (my old strategy):

CPU $150 - lifetime 3 years
GPU $400 - lifetime 3 years

or

version 2 (my current strategy):

CPU $150 - lifetime 3 years
1st GPU $200 - lifetime 1.5 years
2nd GPU $200 - lifetime 1.5 years