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Bolshack on 22 January 2009

hi people, here i am again..

i made a thread some time ago about a top gaming pc.. many helped me, like squilliam and slimebeast..

wel, i'm about to buy it(the pc), but i'm in doubt because many shops i went told me to buy a intel quad core processador instead of the AMD phenom 9850.. i dont really know the difference, so i would be very thankful if you could tell me which one is better for my pc..

sorry for my english



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Words Of Wisdom on 22 January 2009

What's your budget for the processor?

The Phenom will run you about $150-$200.

A Core 2 Q6600 Quad that beats it in specs would run about $200-$220.



Soleron on 22 January 2009

 

It depends on the price point and the applications you intend to run. Intel'd quad-cores are faster but the Phenom 9850s are generally cheaper and will run most things as fast as you need.

Also, the Phenom 9850 has been replaced by the new Phenom II which is much faster and offers real competition to Intel. If you can get a Phenom II, they are better value than the Intel quad-cores at the same price. Finally, AMD motherboards tend to be cheaper so consider the whole PC cost.

For a mainstream quad-core, I would probably recommend the Phenom II X4 920 at $195. It is cheaper than the similarly-performing Core 2 Quad Q9300 at $250, and faster than its competition the Core 2 Quad Q8300 at $195.



MasterZack on 22 January 2009

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Words Of Wisdom on 22 January 2009
Soleron said:

 

It depends on the price point and the applications you intend to run. Intel'd quad-cores are faster but the Phenom 9850s are generally cheaper and will run most things as fast as you need.

Also, the Phenom 9850 has been replaced by the new Phenom II which is much faster and offers real competition to Intel. If you can get a Phenom II, they are better value than the Intel quad-cores at the same price. Finally, AMD motherboards tend to be cheaper so consider the whole PC cost.

For a mainstream quad-core, I would probably recommend the Phenom II X4 920 at $195. It is cheaper than the similarly-performing Core 2 Quad Q9300 at $250, and faster than its competition the Core 2 Quad Q8300 at $195.

Phenom II X4 920 at $195

I totally forgot about that.  A Core i7 could beat it, but that's an extra $100.



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Bolshack on 22 January 2009

price doesnt matter for now, i need a powerful processador to play newest games at very high performance..

thanks to all



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Nintendo IS the industry. Nintendo IS gaming. - BY RolStoppable

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Soleron on 22 January 2009
Bolshack said:

price doesnt matter for now, i need a powerful processador to play newest games at very high performance..

thanks to all

Most games aren't limited by the processor. Once you already have a quad-core at that speed, spending more won't really improve performance. You should spend the money on a better graphics card - which one are you going for at present?

If you must get a better processor, the best performance in each price range above $200 is:

About $200 - Phenom II X4 920

About $235 - Phenom II X4 940

About $280 - Core 2 Quad Q9550

About $330 - Core 2 Quad Q9650

About $550 - Core i7 940

About $999 - Core i7 965

Anything else (over $200) isn't worth buying. But seriously, stick with the Phenom II X4 920 and upgrade your graphics card instead. The best is the GTX295 or HD4870 X2 depending on game and resolution.

 



Bolshack on 22 January 2009
Soleron said:
Bolshack said:

price doesnt matter for now, i need a powerful processador to play newest games at very high performance..

thanks to all

Most games aren't limited by the processor. Once you already have a quad-core at that speed, spending more won't really improve performance. You should spend the money on a better graphics card - which one are you going for at present?

If you must get a better processor, the best performance in each price range above $200 is:

About $200 - Phenom II X4 920

About $235 - Phenom II X4 940

About $280 - Core 2 Quad Q9550

About $330 - Core 2 Quad Q9650

About $550 - Core i7 940

About $999 - Core i7 965

Anything else (over $200) isn't worth buying. But seriously, stick with the Phenom II X4 920 and upgrade your graphics card instead. The best is the GTX295 or HD4870 X2 depending on game and resolution.

 

saphire HD 4870 1 GB is the same as  HD4870 X2?, cause i'm going to buy that card

 



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Viper1 on 22 January 2009

No, the HD4870 X2 is actually 2 HD4870's on 1 card. It's easily superior to the single HD4870 (even the 1 GB model).

An Intel Q6600 is an par performance wise with the Phenom II X920 and is on Newegg for $189.99.



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Soleron on 22 January 2009
Viper1 said:
No, the HD4870 X2 is actually 2 HD4870's on 1 card. It's easily superior to the single HD4870 (even the 1 GB model).

An Intel Q6600 is an par performance wise with the Phenom II X920 and is on Newegg for $189.99.

http://techreport.com/articles.x/16147/5

Let's take a look at the figures.

Game Phenom X4 920 Core 2 Quad Q6600 X4 Advantage
Unreal Tournament 3 128.6 90.8 +41%
Half Life 2 Episode 2 161.3 138.2

+17%
Source Engine 83.3 79.3 +5%
Crysis Warhead 40.2 38.8 +3%
Far Cry 2 57.3 52.2 +10%

As you can see, Phenom II X4 920 is ahead by 3-41% dependding on game, far more than the 2.6% price advantage.

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Yes, the 4870 X2 is two 4870s on one card and will get between 1.5-2x the framerate usually. It's much better.