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i think this article does a good job of summing up the myth of sony's PR scheme of the ten year ps3 cycle. they basically were arrogant/overly confident from the beginning and assumed that after a couple years their sales would pick up dramatically and they would be leading this generation and then start dominating it, which is the only way a system is gonna last more than one year beyond the launch of that company's next system, let alone lasting for a full ten years. psx and ps2 were both that system. this gen the only console that hits that criteria or even comes remotely close to it is the wii, which probably will sell for 9 or 10 years. sony has to keep up this PR scheme though because its the only thing for them to say right now when they are third in both hw and sw sales by a lot and their situation isn't improving at all despite the fact that several of their big hyped games for this generation have come out now (i think all that's left now is god of war 3, gt5, and ffXIII which won't have nearly the impact they are hoping for since its for 360 too).

also saying the technology is ahead of its time i don't think really makes sense. as far as graphics go, the 360 and ps3 are graphically closer than any two other systems ever. i can't tell a lick of difference overall between ports for those two consoles (sometimes the 360 version looks barely better, sometimes the ps3 version looks barely better although usually the only difference is slightly different lighting and coloring). and the very best graphics on the ps3 (mgs4) are ever so slightly better than the very best graphics on 360. so slight that it makes no difference at all.



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Words Of Wisdom said:
Silly Atari people.

The NES' lifespan was 1983 - 2007. 10 year plans are for wimps.

More important than support is the steady release of games. What was the last year the NES saw a steady release of games (say, at least 4 games per month)?

 



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NJ5 said:
Words Of Wisdom said:
Silly Atari people.

The NES' lifespan was 1983 - 2007. 10 year plans are for wimps.

More important than support is the steady release of games. What was the last year the NES saw a steady release of games (say, at least 4 games per month)?

In what country?  Certain eastern countries still have them for sale with games and the like.  Just because they haven't been on a shelf in a US Walmart for a decade doesn't mean they haven't been on retail shelves of other countries possibly even with region specific games.



Words Of Wisdom said:
NJ5 said:
Words Of Wisdom said:
Silly Atari people.

The NES' lifespan was 1983 - 2007. 10 year plans are for wimps.

More important than support is the steady release of games. What was the last year the NES saw a steady release of games (say, at least 4 games per month)?

In what country?  Certain eastern countries still have them for sale with games and the like.  Just because they haven't been on a shelf in a US Walmart for a decade doesn't mean they haven't been on retail shelves of other countries possibly even with region specific games.

Master system lasted longer than NES. NES may have been suported with repairs but no games and no hardware was made once it was discontinued...in 1995

Master system was made in Europe until 1996 and in Brazi until ...TODAY! Street fighter 2 on NES? not a chacne...on master system however...its possible.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sega_Master_System

 

 



Words Of Wisdom said:
NJ5 said:
Words Of Wisdom said:
Silly Atari people.

The NES' lifespan was 1983 - 2007. 10 year plans are for wimps.

More important than support is the steady release of games. What was the last year the NES saw a steady release of games (say, at least 4 games per month)?

In what country?  Certain eastern countries still have them for sale with games and the like.  Just because they haven't been on a shelf in a US Walmart for a decade doesn't mean they haven't been on retail shelves of other countries possibly even with region specific games.

My question would be for Japan/Western countries, as those other countries likely got it late and maybe without new games being released.

 



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disolitude said:
Words Of Wisdom said:
NJ5 said:
Words Of Wisdom said:
Silly Atari people.

The NES' lifespan was 1983 - 2007. 10 year plans are for wimps.

More important than support is the steady release of games. What was the last year the NES saw a steady release of games (say, at least 4 games per month)?

In what country?  Certain eastern countries still have them for sale with games and the like.  Just because they haven't been on a shelf in a US Walmart for a decade doesn't mean they haven't been on retail shelves of other countries possibly even with region specific games.

Master system lasted longer than NES. NES may have been suported with repairs but no games and no hardware was made once it was discontinued...in 1995

Master system was made in Europe until 1996 and in Brazi until ...TODAY! Street fighter 2 on NES? not a chance...on master system however...its possible.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sega_Master_System

 

 

You sure about that?



disolitude said:
Good article. I love the "everyone has a 10 year plan" statement.

Shows that the "10 year plan" statement from Sony was just their way of trying to get consumers to invest in the system and hopefully with enough investements they can make it last for 10 years.

Like a pyramid scheme... :)

 

actually you missed some backstory it seems to the everyone has a 10 year plan statement.

Sony announced the 10 year plan a few years back as we all know but Nintendo and Microsoft wasnt talking about how long they were going to have their consoles on the market. For all we know before Sony announced their 10 year plan we could have had a Wii HD and Xbox 720 in 5 or 6 years.

After some presstime on Sony's plan Nintendo announced that they agree with Sony's plan because it would be cheaper to stick with a console for a longer period of time and also be able to see how things evolve and when it comes time to release a new console they would be able to have affordable but great graphics with some innovative gameplay out of the R&D department like what they believe is Sony's plan out of all this.

Microsoft's jump onto this plan came a while later when people started to wonder how long the 360 was going to last since the PS3's graphics were catching up rather quickly to the 360's. After a while Microsoft decided to release a statement discussing how they will keep their console on the market for a while. Never stated how long, just a while. That recently MS started talking how they will keep the console on the market longer than the PS3, which isnt likely, but it means that we wont be seeing a NextBox until the 360 doesnt earn enough profit to speak about.

 

Now you should understand the backstory.



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i think many of us already know that they will support the ps3 for ten years even if a xbox 720 or ps4 are released.
hell ps3 as it's now will probably can hold up agaisnt a wii 2.



Darc Requiem said:
disolitude said:
Words Of Wisdom said:
NJ5 said:
Words Of Wisdom said:
Silly Atari people.

The NES' lifespan was 1983 - 2007. 10 year plans are for wimps.

More important than support is the steady release of games. What was the last year the NES saw a steady release of games (say, at least 4 games per month)?

In what country?  Certain eastern countries still have them for sale with games and the like.  Just because they haven't been on a shelf in a US Walmart for a decade doesn't mean they haven't been on retail shelves of other countries possibly even with region specific games.

Master system lasted longer than NES. NES may have been suported with repairs but no games and no hardware was made once it was discontinued...in 1995

Master system was made in Europe until 1996 and in Brazi until ...TODAY! Street fighter 2 on NES? not a chance...on master system however...its possible.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sega_Master_System

 

 

You sure about that?

 

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Street_Fighter_II

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