Snake said: The bottom of the page: ''So do you want another "Sony's Doomed" piece? We'll be happy to contribute to the pile of doomsday articles if you want to read it, or even better, if Microsoft want to show us some dollar.'' This shows that some media is corupted and that is ready to bash other companies for some money. And we all know that Bill Gates can buy every media in internet

 

No, it's satire.  And poorly thought out satire at that.

gebx said: MikeB said: I agree US media propaganda has been getting out of hand for quite a while and with regard to the 20% YOY sales drop for November it's no different. Even with a minimal amount of research any media could have figured out the PS3 the year before just had a new model introduced together with a price cut. For the whole of 2008 the PS3 didn't have an actual price cut on entry pricing, of course including the holiday season. Yet year over year sales were up 38-40% for the US for the whole year in total. So IMO the 1/5 drop for just November is not enough to turn into a blind doomsayer. Small problems with your logic of "US Media Propanganda" - The media is loving the Wii and its from the same country as the PS3. - The media loved the PS2 way more then the xbox - Accepting that there's actually some sort of conspiracy theory of journalist having an agenda against the PS3

You see, in the last gen Microsoft didn't buy propaganda because they were losing. This time they were already winning so they bought it. It makes perfect sense once you notice the black helicopters swirling around Sony's HQ.

 

Haha i like how he puts "respected" in quotation marks for the Walstreet journal...

I mean... I can't name a more respected financial paper. When you take financial classes it's often required reading.

Wall Street Journal is basically as respected as you get for this kinda stuff.

I find it funny they think Microsoft paid the WSJ to write that article. So I guess sony paid them back in the day when PS2 was the market leader. People need to get a life. Seriously

NJ5 said: gebx said: MikeB said: I agree US media propaganda has been getting out of hand for quite a while and with regard to the 20% YOY sales drop for November it's no different. Even with a minimal amount of research any media could have figured out the PS3 the year before just had a new model introduced together with a price cut. For the whole of 2008 the PS3 didn't have an actual price cut on entry pricing, of course including the holiday season. Yet year over year sales were up 38-40% for the US for the whole year in total. So IMO the 1/5 drop for just November is not enough to turn into a blind doomsayer. Small problems with your logic of "US Media Propanganda" - The media is loving the Wii and its from the same country as the PS3. - The media loved the PS2 way more then the xbox - Accepting that there's actually some sort of conspiracy theory of journalist having an agenda against the PS3 You see, in the last gen Microsoft didn't buy propaganda because they were losing. This time they were already winning so they bought it. It makes perfect sense once you notice the black helicopters swirling around Sony's HQ.

but they are not winning either this gen, read the articles its not about sony problems they have it they should be reported but the media have overthrow the new making look like the ps3 and sony will perish in painful death soon.

which is hardly not the case.

 

Jo21 said: but they are not winning either this gen, read the articles its not about sony problems they have it they should be reported but the media have overthrow the new making look like the ps3 and sony will perish in painful death soon. which is hardly not the case.

I meant winning against Sony of course.

The financial media is not saying the PS3 and Sony will die soon, they're just accurately reporting on what's one of the most troubled Japanese companies these days.

 

NJ5 said: gebx said: MikeB said: I agree US media propaganda has been getting out of hand for quite a while and with regard to the 20% YOY sales drop for November it's no different. Even with a minimal amount of research any media could have figured out the PS3 the year before just had a new model introduced together with a price cut. For the whole of 2008 the PS3 didn't have an actual price cut on entry pricing, of course including the holiday season. Yet year over year sales were up 38-40% for the US for the whole year in total. So IMO the 1/5 drop for just November is not enough to turn into a blind doomsayer. Small problems with your logic of "US Media Propanganda" - The media is loving the Wii and its from the same country as the PS3. - The media loved the PS2 way more then the xbox - Accepting that there's actually some sort of conspiracy theory of journalist having an agenda against the PS3 You see, in the last gen Microsoft didn't buy propaganda because they were losing. This time they were already winning so they bought it. It makes perfect sense once you notice the black helicopters swirling around Sony's HQ.

It's just good propoganda ;)

Debating with conspiracy theorists is frastrating :(

Jo21 said: NJ5 said: gebx said: MikeB said: I agree US media propaganda has been getting out of hand for quite a while and with regard to the 20% YOY sales drop for November it's no different. Even with a minimal amount of research any media could have figured out the PS3 the year before just had a new model introduced together with a price cut. For the whole of 2008 the PS3 didn't have an actual price cut on entry pricing, of course including the holiday season. Yet year over year sales were up 38-40% for the US for the whole year in total. So IMO the 1/5 drop for just November is not enough to turn into a blind doomsayer. Small problems with your logic of "US Media Propanganda" - The media is loving the Wii and its from the same country as the PS3. - The media loved the PS2 way more then the xbox - Accepting that there's actually some sort of conspiracy theory of journalist having an agenda against the PS3 You see, in the last gen Microsoft didn't buy propaganda because they were losing. This time they were already winning so they bought it. It makes perfect sense once you notice the black helicopters swirling around Sony's HQ.   but they are not winning either this gen, read the articles its not about sony problems they have it they should be reported but the media have overthrow the new making look like the ps3 and sony will perish in painful death soon. which is hardly not the case.

The media is reporting facts. If you want an opinion, read an editorial.

The main problem is - anyone with a blog can now be a journalist. A person who either earned a journalism degree or a person who has been trained in the field qualifies. Wannabes? Not so much.

Journalists are supposed to be reporting facts about companies and the like. To write a favorable article about a company that isn't truthful is against the code of ethics. It's a strict code that assures readers the facts are there - and they aren't spinning the topic.

Also, bloggers and other wannabes aren't bond to this code. They can do whatever they want and write whatever they choose.

WSJ is a fine newspaper. What personal stake do they have in video games? It's not like video games take out a few full-page ads in their publication. They are reporting news - whether you agree with it or not, it's the facts. Investors and other shareholders trust the newspaper - but a biased gamer thinks it's a turd? LOL ...

Companies have people paid to give them coverage - PR folks, skilled in the art of spin.

This guy? He wants attention and is getting it.

 

 

@ madskillz

It seems you know little about media coverage which is always biased to some extend. A lot of news coverage is editorialized and even if a news service tries to stay as objective as possible, still a selection of "facts" needs to be made (they decide what's important to cover and what's not) and the choice with regard to which people's perspectives to highlight.

Really reread the news coverages regarding the PS3 starting from 2006. Believe me in hind sight it's easy to spot much bias, unprofessionalism, lack of research and verification.

IMO in general the past couple of years US media coverages have been extremely bad. The Dutch media paid much attention to this in the past as well, actually performing in depth research on the issue. (of course this didn't relate to the PS3, but rather with regard to politics, war, cover-ups, etc) Dutch journalists also highlighted how despite best efforts their coverage is also biased to some extend, or even the BBC, a relatively very correct and professional broadcast service.

gebx said: MikeB said: I agree US media propaganda has been getting out of hand for quite a while and with regard to the 20% YOY sales drop for November it's no different. Even with a minimal amount of research any media could have figured out the PS3 the year before just had a new model introduced together with a price cut. For the whole of 2008 the PS3 didn't have an actual price cut on entry pricing, of course including the holiday season. Yet year over year sales were up 38-40% for the US for the whole year in total. So IMO the 1/5 drop for just November is not enough to turn into a blind doomsayer. Small problems with your logic of "US Media Propanganda" - The media is loving the Wii and its from the same country as the PS3. - The media loved the PS2 way more then the xbox - Accepting that there's actually some sort of conspiracy theory of journalist having an agenda against the PS3

I wasn't even thinking of country vs country, that's your personal perspective, not mine.

Was I talking about conspiracy theories? I was rather thinking of bias and unprofessionalism.

Really what has the Wii or PS2 to do with regard to unprofessional PS3 news coverage?