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outlawauron on 22 January 2009
Hammer-of-Dawn said:
and P.S.......Disgeaa and Valkarie are of the SRPG genre, thats strategy rpg, and not necessarily a Jrpg.

So scratch those 2 off the PS3 list.

What is the definetion of a JRPG? I thought it was a Japanese Role Playing Game. Both games are made in Japan and I think qualify as they are both some type of an RPG.



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Kasz216 on 22 January 2009
outlawauron said:
Hammer-of-Dawn said:
and P.S.......Disgeaa and Valkarie are of the SRPG genre, thats strategy rpg, and not necessarily a Jrpg.

So scratch those 2 off the PS3 list.

What is the definetion of a JRPG? I thought it was a Japanese Role Playing Game. Both games are made in Japan and I think qualify as they are both some type of an RPG.

That's not what has been argued to me recently.

What they argue is that a JRPG is a certain style of RPG, with certain chacters, plots and usually one outcome.



Rei on 22 January 2009

I really like how people always throw sRPGs into the argument when they need to backup their "** console has quality jRPGs" claim. But whenever it comes to discussing the actual sales it is always like - "Well, sRPGs cant be compared with jRPGs, it is a different and a niche genre" and blah blah blah.



outlawauron on 22 January 2009
Kasz216 said:
outlawauron said:
Hammer-of-Dawn said:
and P.S.......Disgeaa and Valkarie are of the SRPG genre, thats strategy rpg, and not necessarily a Jrpg.

So scratch those 2 off the PS3 list.

What is the definetion of a JRPG? I thought it was a Japanese Role Playing Game. Both games are made in Japan and I think qualify as they are both some type of an RPG.

That's not what has been argued to me recently.

What they argue is that a JRPG is a certain style of RPG, with certain chacters, plots and usually one outcome.

Well you can talk that route too, but regardless, the outcome is the same.



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And snuggle the girls be they short or tall,
Then follow young Mat whenever he calls,
To dance with Jak o' the Shadows."

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Kasz216 on 22 January 2009
outlawauron said:
Kasz216 said:
outlawauron said:
Hammer-of-Dawn said:
and P.S.......Disgeaa and Valkarie are of the SRPG genre, thats strategy rpg, and not necessarily a Jrpg.

So scratch those 2 off the PS3 list.

What is the definetion of a JRPG? I thought it was a Japanese Role Playing Game. Both games are made in Japan and I think qualify as they are both some type of an RPG.

That's not what has been argued to me recently.

What they argue is that a JRPG is a certain style of RPG, with certain chacters, plots and usually one outcome.

Well you can talk that route too, but regardless, the outcome is the same.

If by that you mean SRPGS not being JRPGS i'd agree.

They're really a lot different.

Its like saying Gears of War and Resistance 2 are in the same genre because they're both about fighting aliens and linear.

One is a FPS game, the other is a TPS.

Or Rise of Nations and Civilization are the same because they're both about taking over the world and have no stories.

Strategy RPGs have more differences with JRPGs then FPS do with TPS...  and the fanbases are more divergent... the only reason you'd include them is wanting to prove a point one way or another and you want to massage the data.



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outlawauron on 22 January 2009
Kasz216 said:
outlawauron said:
Kasz216 said:
outlawauron said:
Hammer-of-Dawn said:
and P.S.......Disgeaa and Valkarie are of the SRPG genre, thats strategy rpg, and not necessarily a Jrpg.

So scratch those 2 off the PS3 list.

What is the definetion of a JRPG? I thought it was a Japanese Role Playing Game. Both games are made in Japan and I think qualify as they are both some type of an RPG.

That's not what has been argued to me recently.

What they argue is that a JRPG is a certain style of RPG, with certain chacters, plots and usually one outcome.

Well you can talk that route too, but regardless, the outcome is the same.

If by that you mean SRPGS not being JRPGS i'd agree.

They're really a lot different.

Its like saying Gears of War and Resistance 2 are in the same genre because they're both about fighting aliens and linear.

One is a FPS game, the other is a TPS.

Or Rise of Nations and Civilization are the same because they're both about taking over the world and have no stories.

Strategy RPGs have more differences with JRPGs then FPS do with TPS...  and the fanbases are more divergent... the only reason you'd include them is wanting to prove a point one way or another and you want to massage the data.

Well, SRPGs play differently in gameplay but are also similar to almost all turn based JRPGs. Both involve taking turns and some games force you time attacks and use strategy.

Gears and Resistance do fit into the shooter category though. While both play differently (TPS vs. FPS) you can still classify them as Shooters.

And most combine SRPGs with total JRPGs because we get such a small amount of both of them.



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Khuutra on 23 January 2009
coolestguyever said:
so? I only care about FPS and Racing games.

This is so honest it's actually beautiful, in a tragic way.



Khuutra on 23 January 2009
ZenfoldorVGI said:

Cloud, you've cherrypicked. That said, both consoles have terrible jrpg sales. Terrible. I'm ashamed for my favorite genre right now. Is it time developers move on from this oh so sacred of genre?

In my opinion, Sony is to blame. They haven't supported the genre at all. At least Microsoft has tried its little green moneygrubbing heart out.

Also this is ridiculous.

JRPGs have never sold gangbusters outside of the big 3 (DQ, FF, Pokemon) and sales in general are around what they were last generation.



outlawauron on 23 January 2009
Khuutra said:
ZenfoldorVGI said:

Cloud, you've cherrypicked. That said, both consoles have terrible jrpg sales. Terrible. I'm ashamed for my favorite genre right now. Is it time developers move on from this oh so sacred of genre?

In my opinion, Sony is to blame. They haven't supported the genre at all. At least Microsoft has tried its little green moneygrubbing heart out.

Also this is ridiculous.

JRPGs have never sold gangbusters outside of the big 3 (DQ, FF, Pokemon) and sales in general are around what they were last generation.

Agreed. Pokemon has sold gangbusters on the DS and we still have to see how well DQ and FF sell.



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errorrrr on 23 January 2009

VC and Disgaea definitely qualifies for jRPG. btw, WKC is selling pretty well.