superbeast1370 said:
and its gameplay needs an overhaul like Kojima did with Metal Gear. |
I'm not sure what you mean... Kojima has always been the designer of the Metal Gear series...
http://www.vgchartz.com/games/userreviewdisp.php?id=261
That is VGChartz LONGEST review. And it's NOT Cute Kitten DS
superbeast1370 said:
and its gameplay needs an overhaul like Kojima did with Metal Gear. |
Why change a good thing?
Barozi said:
yeah and games like Lost Odyssey... oh wait that game was hard and almost impossible without grinding in some parts ! |
Lost Odyssey required no grinding at all to win the game - it was designed that way. The only time you had to grind was to defeat some of the optional enemies.
Oyvoyvoyv said:
I'm not sure what you mean... Kojima has always been the designer of the Metal Gear series... |
MGS4's gameplay is WAYYYY better than MGS3. it was a great step forward. DQ's gameplay is VERY OLD. has not changed at all.
Barozi said:
yeah and games like Lost Odyssey... oh wait that game was hard and almost impossible without grinding in some parts ! |
Odd I have done 0 Grinding and I'm on the 4th disc with only dying once. That was only becuase I did not know the boss relfects all my magic back >_>
Former something....
superbeast1370 said:
MGS4's gameplay is WAYYYY better than MGS3. it was a great step forward. DQ's gameplay is VERY OLD. has not changed at all. |
Yeah... But Kojima made MGS3 as well...
Did you mean to say that MGS is a developing series? (Because it sounded to me that you meant Kojima changed what someone else had done with MGS).
And some things should simply stay the way it did. Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn for instance is still a blast, despite its gameplay, graphics, music and story all being dated.
http://www.vgchartz.com/games/userreviewdisp.php?id=261
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Because dragon quests games are not graphic whore. Its just one of them story driven old school type of rpg which i'm hooked on since the first one. Hell I know almost all the Dragon Quest story and they all connect in one way or the other.
Oyvoyvoyv said:
Yeah... But Kojima made MGS3 as well... Did you mean to say that MGS is a developing series? (Because it sounded to me that you meant Kojima changed what someone else had done with MGS).
And some things should simply stay the way it did. Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn for instance is still a blast, despite its gameplay, graphics, music and story all being dated. |
no, I'm talking about gameplay. MGS2 gameplay was a great leap from MGS1. MGS3 however was almost the same. the camera was annoying especially since every other game had a 3D camera (even though this feature was later implemented in Subsistence). MGS4 controls so well, it is almost impossible to go back and use the old control scheme. so what I'm saying is that developers have to improve gameplay with each interation in order for the series to be enjoyable and not feel like a rehash of previous games. and I know kojima made all MGS games.
I think cactus might be one to something with his brain receptor theory...
But seriously. I'm at a loss to explain why DQ isn't loved here as I LOVE it. Instead of every entry feeling like some overdone melodrama, each one feels like a fairly tale or a story book... an off-kilter, odd story book, but a story book still. As for the gameplay... well, games like Mario have gotten away with jumping around for eons without being criticized for it. We have the Final Fantasy's and Lost Odysseys, and the Fables to go to for different gameplay in rpgs. I don't see what is wrong with having a nice quality turn based game to go with.
Because it's repetitive and boring, personally I think the most redeeming part of DQ8 was that it wasn't FF12.
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