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CAL4M1TY said:
Slightly off topic: I find it laughable when people use these two reasons for why the PS3 isn't struggling or why it will eventually "win"

1) It's doing better than the PS2 did at the same point in it's life span
2) It's sold better then the 360 in Year X

I find it absolutely ridiculous that people don't understand the concept of market growth. Duh those 2 points are true, BUT the same could be said about the Wii VS any of the consoles. The point is, as more people enter the market, we're likely to see more growth in sales. The issue with the PS3 is, it's growth isn't as substantial as that of the Wii and the 360 (hence why it's still in 3rd despite those 2 points above). That's why the last generation outsold every gen before it, and despite the financial crisis, some still predict this gen's total console sales to surpass last generation.

Personally, I believe the PS3 will catch the 360 by the end of generation, I don't doubt that. The problem is, when it does, will the 360 still be the flagship home console for Microsoft?

I doubt the Wii will be surpassed by either.

 

Actually the PS3 is not selling equal to the PS2 at this point in its life, if you allign their launches.



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@NJ5

yes but its stupid to write Ps3 off against 360 when it still isn't at the price where as Microsoft themselves said "a consoles 70% of Lifetime sales are done"

also you can't denote the power of Gran Turismo.



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darthdevidem01 said:
@NJ5

yes but its stupid to write Ps3 off against 360 when it still isn't at the price where as Microsoft themselves said "a consoles 70% of Lifetime sales are done"

also you can't denote the power of Gran Turismo.

I understand that GT5 is the best system seller the PS3 has, but to the point of making it stage a huge comeback, I don't think so.

So far, Microsoft has proven that they're willing and able to counter Sony's moves... It's not impossible for the PS3 to comeback, but all things considered it looks very unlikely, especially considering Sony's troubles these days.

 



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misterd said:
The_God_of_War said:
I know so many PS3 fans say this but a big price cut, GT 5, FF13 in Japan, GOW 3 etc, could result in a comeback of sorts.

With the losses Sony faces for this past year, though, it is debatable whether they can still afford a price cut any time soon (which I would define as the next 9 months).

 

 

Any simple minded person would think that, tis' the reason why 99% of people on this forum would run a business to the ground in days. Big businesses have to think out the box, it is the reason why they end up having thousands of people working for them. $100 price cut brings more PS3's into homes thus more software sales, people forget that console companies make most of their money from software sales. ;)



 

RPG said:
misterd said:
The_God_of_War said:
I know so many PS3 fans say this but a big price cut, GT 5, FF13 in Japan, GOW 3 etc, could result in a comeback of sorts.

With the losses Sony faces for this past year, though, it is debatable whether they can still afford a price cut any time soon (which I would define as the next 9 months).

 

 

Any simple minded person would think that, tis' the reason why 99% of people on this forum would run a business to the ground in days. Big businesses have to think out the box, it is the reason why they end up having thousands of people working for them. $100 price cut brings more PS3's into homes thus more software sales, people forget that console companies make most of their money from software sales. ;)

In that case, why not just do $100 price cuts every day until the price is $0?

Let's not be simplistic here...

 



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NJ5 said:
RPG said:
misterd said:
The_God_of_War said:
I know so many PS3 fans say this but a big price cut, GT 5, FF13 in Japan, GOW 3 etc, could result in a comeback of sorts.

With the losses Sony faces for this past year, though, it is debatable whether they can still afford a price cut any time soon (which I would define as the next 9 months).

 

 

Any simple minded person would think that, tis' the reason why 99% of people on this forum would run a business to the ground in days. Big businesses have to think out the box, it is the reason why they end up having thousands of people working for them. $100 price cut brings more PS3's into homes thus more software sales, people forget that console companies make most of their money from software sales. ;)

In that case, why not just do $100 price cuts every day until the price is $0?

Let's not be simplistic here...

 

What a darn retarded statement you made there, I mean really come on.......:/

 



 

NJ5 said:
libellule said:
MS has one, but insane, main plan :

Xbox360 will ALWAYS be cheaper than PS3

this price advantage may be to strong to allow the PS3 comeback ...

(and I still hope PS3 will come back !)

Why is it insane? The 360 will probably always cost less to manufacture, so why wouldn't it always be cheaper than the PS3?

 

it is insane because price matter quite a lot (particularly when u are the cheaper console of the market) and because we are in an economic crysis and because the only true technical advantage of the PS3 is the BR player that we know is not that important for gaming and gamers.

Just check France sales for xmas period after the 2nd Xbox360 price drop and u will understand what I mean ...



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To all :

dont bring too much GT5 on the table

Imagine that GT5 is directly facing Forza3 and that both games are overall equal , people may still prefer to buy the cheapiest console ...



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RPG said:
NJ5 said:
RPG said:

 

Any simple minded person would think that, tis' the reason why 99% of people on this forum would run a business to the ground in days. Big businesses have to think out the box, it is the reason why they end up having thousands of people working for them. $100 price cut brings more PS3's into homes thus more software sales, people forget that console companies make most of their money from software sales. ;)

In that case, why not just do $100 price cuts every day until the price is $0?

Let's not be simplistic here...

 

What a darn retarded statement you made there, I mean really come on.......:/

 

 

I just took your own argument to its logical conclusion, so you're really calling yourself retarded.

More to the point, you have to prove that the $100 price cut this year would help Sony's profits rather than hurt them.

 



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@libellule

puh-lease

without bundles Forza 2 would've been unable to outsell GT 5 Prologue



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