PS3 would need to start outselling 360 by 50-100,000 a week or more till the end of this generation.

Devise01 said: Tim_Duncan said: The gap is likely to be much lower than expected because of the 360 high failure rate. Otherwise, why do multiplats sell better on PS3 (the dooooomed console ^^) than on 360 these day ? (RE5, SF4) If as an average people buy 2 Xbox 360, it will make only 1 software sale, and that's even before 360 piracy. That's a lot of money lost for Microsoft. It's quite hilarious to read multiple Sony is doomed articles every day when Sony just sold 600k machines in the US last month (PS2/PS3/PSP) and when PS3 outsold 360 if you take hardware sold worldwide from launch. Attach rate is higher on the 360 and software is almost 2:1.

No, it's only in your head man, RE5 sold 55/45 PS3 worldwide. FACT. Sorry, those are numbers. Or are you taking US only ? (which nobody cares)

papero2 said: Devise01 said: Tim_Duncan said: The gap is likely to be much lower than expected because of the 360 high failure rate. Otherwise, why do multiplats sell better on PS3 (the dooooomed console ^^) than on 360 these day ? (RE5, SF4) If as an average people buy 2 Xbox 360, it will make only 1 software sale, and that's even before 360 piracy. That's a lot of money lost for Microsoft. It's quite hilarious to read multiple Sony is doomed articles every day when Sony just sold 600k machines in the US last month (PS2/PS3/PSP) and when PS3 outsold 360 if you take hardware sold worldwide from launch. Attach rate is higher on the 360 and software is almost 2:1.   Attach rate and sale numbers are not the same. its total sales divides by consoles. I was surprise to see SF4: 360 sold 450k (there are 17 million consoles) ps3 sold 403k (there are 8 million consoles)

We should stop with the 'attach rates' bullcrap. Attach rates typically grow when you have less new console buys since the new owners start with owning 1 or 2 games, not 10... So basically it can be good for software or bad for hardware. It means nothing, since we don't know exactly which one of those two meanings is true. Advantage : you can make it say whatever you want. it's useless except in MS PR flamebait speeches that greenturd loves so much. Sony and MS win money with sales, not with 'attach rates'. Sony just sold 700k Playstation consoles (2+3+PSP) in the US in one month, so they're doing really fine, even more Worldwide or in software sales when they're definitely on par with MS. That's why the 12 year old MS fanboys 'Sony is dooooomed' threads are so funny. They want their PS3 so much but mommy doesn't want to pay, so all they can do is trying to hate. Love and hate are so close, the opposite of love is indifference. If they didn't want the PS3, you wouldn't see any thread about it (example : the Wii).

this gen is all ready set in stone
the wii is in frist place the 360 is in 2 place the PS3 is in 3 place.
the PS3 cant catch the 360.

papero2 said: Devise01 said: Tim_Duncan said: The gap is likely to be much lower than expected because of the 360 high failure rate. Otherwise, why do multiplats sell better on PS3 (the dooooomed console ^^) than on 360 these day ? (RE5, SF4) If as an average people buy 2 Xbox 360, it will make only 1 software sale, and that's even before 360 piracy. That's a lot of money lost for Microsoft. It's quite hilarious to read multiple Sony is doomed articles every day when Sony just sold 600k machines in the US last month (PS2/PS3/PSP) and when PS3 outsold 360 if you take hardware sold worldwide from launch. Attach rate is higher on the 360 and software is almost 2:1.   Attach rate and sale numbers are not the same. its total sales divides by consoles. I was surprise to see SF4: 360 sold 450k (there are 17 million consoles) ps3 sold 403k (there are 8 million consoles)

We should stop with the 'attach rates' bullcrap. Attach rates typically grow when you have less new console buys since the new owners start with owning 1 or 2 games, not 10... So basically it can be good for software or bad for hardware. It means nothing, since we don't know exactly which one of those two meanings is true. Advantage : you can make it say whatever you want. it's useless except in MS PR flamebait speeches that greenturd loves so much. Sony and MS win money with sales, not with 'attach rates'. Sony just sold 700k Playstation consoles (2+3+PSP) in the US in one month, so they're doing really fine, even more Worldwide or in software sales when they're definitely on par with MS. That's why the 12 year old MS fanboys 'Sony is dooooomed' threads are so funny. They want their PS3 so much but mommy doesn't want to pay, so all they can do is trying to hate. Love and hate are so close, the opposite of love is indifference. If they didn't want the PS3, you wouldn't see any thread about it (example : the Wii).

Black RL said: Hello   XBOX360 - 27.550.000 units PS3 - 19.630.000 units   GAP - 7.920.000 units   Currently XBOX360 is outselling the PS3, but let's pretend that it starts to outsell the XBOX360 by 50.000 units a week.   7.920.000 / 50.000 = 158.4 weeks   If we consider that a year has 53 weeks the PS3 would need:   158.4 / 53 = 2.988679245 years   Would need 3 YEARS to CLOSE THE GAP, just to CLOSE IT. So it will need 2009, 2010 and 2011 just to close the gap. If we see the release date of the XBOX360, 12 of May of 2005, we can easly see that a new system will be introduced in late 2010, 2011 or in the worst scenario beginning of 2012.   This makes impossible for the PS3 to catch the XBOX360. The same is TRUE regarding the Wii and the XBOX360. So I guess we have a winner and a whinner.   A hug to you all.

You are a troll. Don't spout facts ans math at me. The glorious PS3 will be in the lead after the price cut!. 8 million people are just waiting to buy the glorious PS3 as soon as that happens.

 

Of course PS3 will be in the lead after any price cut since it sells rather the same as 360 worldwide BEFORE the price cut (= now). A 5 year old kid could figure that out I guess. Or you think the price cut will have no effect ? That's not what happened when MS cut the price in september, since it was crushed worldwide by the PS3 before the cut, and was ok after. Feel free to check the numbers, you have them on vg. Basically, the price cut is the only thing that saved the 360 (as a side note, MS was right not to bet everything on its 2009 exclusives lineup, since well, there's nearly nothing...)

Squilliam said: Final-Fan said: Squilliam said: coolestguyever said: All I have to say are 2 things: 1. A year has 52.25 weeks 2. PS3 will outsell the Wii and the 360 when it drops to $300 (assuming the wii is still $250) If you say only 2 things, you should be even more sure that what you say is 100% correct! scottie said: Actually, a year is 365.2425 days approx which is 52.1775 weeks :P If you're going to correct someone ... make sure you're right! I was closer! Therefore I was more correct!

We use "The price is right" rules here :P

 

You can see the million sellers here:

http://vgchartz.com/worldtotals.php

You can see that the 360 has more million sellers.

You can see the attach rate here (Tie ratio):

http://www.vgchartz.com/weekly.php

You can see that the 360 has the highest tie ratio even WITH piracy.

And regarding Multiplat games, please tell me witch ones sell more one the PS3? Because I only see them sell more on the 360:

http://www.vgchartz.com/weekly.php

RE5 already sold better (this week)
HAWX
Major League 2K9
COD5 (wayyyyyyyyyy more! 2.000.000 MORE!)
Skate 2
GTA4 (just 1.500.000 more..... LOL)

I will give you SF4, but let's WAIT some more weeks. But COD5 (I don't even need to talk about others) is enough to overcome SF4 difference.

And you can see software total here:

http://www.vgchartz.com/weekly.php

And you have to count with Japan, some games are for the Japanese, and that games sell better on the PS3 because of the installed base. That's why I think PS3 fans are fanboys, they just don't want to see the truth.

PS3 fans like to compare the console sales of PS3 from the current year (2008) with console sales X360 sales of previous year(2007). So they can say same point in time PS3 and X360 launched from the same time. PS3 is ahead. (ZOMG - really convenient)

How about I turn the tables here and say well look at the X360 this year is kicking ass with PS3 sales from last year. X360 same point in time is smashing PS3 in console sales.

Head to head the X360 outsells PS3 in the same year when they are both competing - not some made up BS argument which obviously conveniently favours their console.

PS3 fans do not like it when we do that? You can dish it out PS3 fan but you can not take it.

X360 leads PS3 by over 8 million consoles world wide. 10 million+ lead for X360 over PS3 in non-Japan regions.
PS3 is losing the console sales war - it is dead last(third). GAME OVER!!!