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Kyros said:
95% of reviews

 

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Sometimes I wonder what it is Nintendo fans really want. You seem to be the only group that will praise anything that comes out of their studios. The rich keep getting richer..



What's up with all this bs? Why are you so butthurt if someone does not like one nintendo-made game? Just have fun with your twinkle twinkle little star and mario theme.



Kyros said:
for it sharing the exact same idea as Wii Music


The exact same idea is a phrase that must have a different meaning for you than for me.

The thing is Singstar is a Karaoke game and it is a good karaoke game with an input device (a microphone) that is perfect for Karaoke.

Wii Music is a game for making music and it does this with an input device that is shitty for making music. A wand you wave around. The Wiimote doesn't look like a music instrument, it doesn't have the controls of a music instrument. Because of this games like Rockband add very expensive accessories like the drums that really work like music instruments.

The Wiimote is great for Wii Sports because many sports are rather nicely approximated by waving around a racket, a bat or whatever. Making music is much more complicated with very different instruments and many times blowing out air of your mouth is a completely different matter and this shows. It looks ridiculous and 95% of reviews have said that it plays sucky too. Now it apparently has sales success but perhaps people are so disgusted with it that they will learn for the next time. One can only hope.

A bit of cherry picking on my part but from personal experience GameStops don't have mass amounts of traded in Wii Music games which usually is what happens when people are displeased with a new game, but they have huge stacks of games like GTA IV, The Force Unleashed, Halo 3 (even though that's a little less relivent since it's older but still has huge stacks right after release) and even MGS4...

 



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MaxwellGT2000 said:
Kyros said:
for it sharing the exact same idea as Wii Music


The exact same idea is a phrase that must have a different meaning for you than for me.

The thing is Singstar is a Karaoke game and it is a good karaoke game with an input device (a microphone) that is perfect for Karaoke.

Wii Music is a game for making music and it does this with an input device that is shitty for making music. A wand you wave around. The Wiimote doesn't look like a music instrument, it doesn't have the controls of a music instrument. Because of this games like Rockband add very expensive accessories like the drums that really work like music instruments.

The Wiimote is great for Wii Sports because many sports are rather nicely approximated by waving around a racket, a bat or whatever. Making music is much more complicated with very different instruments and many times blowing out air of your mouth is a completely different matter and this shows. It looks ridiculous and 95% of reviews have said that it plays sucky too. Now it apparently has sales success but perhaps people are so disgusted with it that they will learn for the next time. One can only hope.

A bit of cherry picking on my part but from personal experience GameStops don't have mass amounts of traded in Wii Music games which usually is what happens when people are displeased with a new game, but they have huge stacks of games like GTA IV, The Force Unleashed, Halo 3 (even though that's a little less relivent since it's older but still has huge stacks right after release) and even MGS4...

 

I wonder. Could it be because most of wii music buyers don't shop from stores like gamestop? They don't know that they can sell their used copies.

 



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Esa-Petteri said:
MaxwellGT2000 said:
Kyros said:
for it sharing the exact same idea as Wii Music


The exact same idea is a phrase that must have a different meaning for you than for me.

The thing is Singstar is a Karaoke game and it is a good karaoke game with an input device (a microphone) that is perfect for Karaoke.

Wii Music is a game for making music and it does this with an input device that is shitty for making music. A wand you wave around. The Wiimote doesn't look like a music instrument, it doesn't have the controls of a music instrument. Because of this games like Rockband add very expensive accessories like the drums that really work like music instruments.

The Wiimote is great for Wii Sports because many sports are rather nicely approximated by waving around a racket, a bat or whatever. Making music is much more complicated with very different instruments and many times blowing out air of your mouth is a completely different matter and this shows. It looks ridiculous and 95% of reviews have said that it plays sucky too. Now it apparently has sales success but perhaps people are so disgusted with it that they will learn for the next time. One can only hope.

A bit of cherry picking on my part but from personal experience GameStops don't have mass amounts of traded in Wii Music games which usually is what happens when people are displeased with a new game, but they have huge stacks of games like GTA IV, The Force Unleashed, Halo 3 (even though that's a little less relivent since it's older but still has huge stacks right after release) and even MGS4...

 

I wonder. Could it be because most of wii music buyers don't shop from stores like gamestop? They don't know that they can sell their used copies.

 

 

Except there's ads all over TV... and stores everywhere... and well no way not to see at least one gamestop ad on TV in north america...



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MaxwellGT2000 said:
Esa-Petteri said:
MaxwellGT2000 said:

A bit of cherry picking on my part but from personal experience GameStops don't have mass amounts of traded in Wii Music games which usually is what happens when people are displeased with a new game, but they have huge stacks of games like GTA IV, The Force Unleashed, Halo 3 (even though that's a little less relivent since it's older but still has huge stacks right after release) and even MGS4...

 

I wonder. Could it be because most of wii music buyers don't shop from stores like gamestop? They don't know that they can sell their used copies.

 

 

Except there's ads all over TV... and stores everywhere... and well no way not to see at least one gamestop ad on TV in north america...

Well it was just so funny when you talked about cherry picking and then said that kind of stuff. Really.. you should try toys 'r' us. Maybe there is more used copies of wii music than for example, MGS4? :D

 



Esa-Petteri said:
MaxwellGT2000 said:
Esa-Petteri said:
MaxwellGT2000 said:

A bit of cherry picking on my part but from personal experience GameStops don't have mass amounts of traded in Wii Music games which usually is what happens when people are displeased with a new game, but they have huge stacks of games like GTA IV, The Force Unleashed, Halo 3 (even though that's a little less relivent since it's older but still has huge stacks right after release) and even MGS4...

 

I wonder. Could it be because most of wii music buyers don't shop from stores like gamestop? They don't know that they can sell their used copies.

 

 

Except there's ads all over TV... and stores everywhere... and well no way not to see at least one gamestop ad on TV in north america...

Well it was just so funny when you talked about cherry picking and then said that kind of stuff. Really.. you should try toys 'r' us. Maybe there is more used copies of wii music than for example, MGS4? :D

 

 

Uhm wut?



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Kyros said:
[quote] 95% of reviews have said that it plays sucky too . Now it apparently has sales success but perhaps people are so disgusted with it that they will learn for the next time. One can only hope.

Well, that would be because 95% (or whatever the real number is) of reviews have been written by people who have previously convinced themselves that 'random waggling' is the way the game is played, they then proceed to randomly waggle and find out it doesn't work that way.

Of course the rational response to that would be to experiment with the controls and find out how delightfully subtle and accurate they are, but hey, there's a deadline for the review so lets instead just write that it sucks.

Really.

What you need to look at is the 5% (or whatever the real number is) of reviews that took the time to play the game for fun and not for laughs.

I find it hard to believe that others did not see at E3 2008 what I saw. I saw a game that did music so well that it needed serious practice to get it right, that was so hard to master that they could only just demonstrate it doing something and couldn't demonstrate - because they hadn't practised enough together - other than badly. It looked to me like the first run through of a good play by an inexperienced cast, or the first rehearsal of good music by an amateur orchestra. Now it might be that because I've seen both those situations at first hand, and often, that I then saw past the performance to the potential. 

But to take from E3 2008 a hate for the game and carry it forward for six months despite all the evidence to the contrary from people who have played it enough to see what it is capable of?

That is not good. And not just in the business-ethical sense. In the moral sense.

Luddites.

 

 

 

 

 

 



how could so many people buy this why not buy guitar hero or sumthing