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PhalanxCO on 16 January 2009
Gnizmo said:
BTFeather55 said: 

      Yeah, but I don't like to have to pay $50.00 to have to think for myself. And what you're saying, have you ever heard of the social psychological principle of cognitive dissonance?  It basically says that if you are compelled to do something, then you will say that you really enjoy it more because you want to have a justification for why you enjoy something other than admit the truth about it.

 I have done experiments on it in fact. It does not in anyway apply here though. At least not in the way you seem to want to apply it. Unfortunately for you the reason people are defending the game is likely because they actually enjoyed the game. Unless the people here are somehow compelled to respond (which they are not) this is just a genuine reflection of their personal views.

 

Famousringo said:

Wiistian? That's terrible. Even Wiitard was a better word than that.

Try something that actually rolls off the tongue, like Wiipublican or Wiiligious zealot.

 I think Wiiastines would be the best. A subtle play on Phillistines. The added a is needed to make the word roll off the tongue though which slightly diminishes the immediate connection. Still I think it conjures the desired imagery and is far less directly insulting than wiitard.

How about:

Wiigyptians?  Wiidomites?Wiibylonians?

 



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BTFeather55 on 16 January 2009
Gnizmo said:
BTFeather55 said: 

      Yeah, but I don't like to have to pay $50.00 to have to think for myself. And what you're saying, have you ever heard of the social psychological principle of cognitive dissonance?  It basically says that if you are compelled to do something, then you will say that you really enjoy it more because you want to have a justification for why you enjoy something other than admit the truth about it.

 I have done experiments on it in fact. It does not in anyway apply here though. At least not in the way you seem to want to apply it. Unfortunately for you the reason people are defending the game is likely because they actually enjoyed the game. Unless the people here are somehow compelled to respond (which they are not) this is just a genuine reflection of their personal views.

 

Famousringo said:

Wiistian? That's terrible. Even Wiitard was a better word than that.

Try something that actually rolls off the tongue, like Wiipublican or Wiiligious zealot.

 I think Wiiastines would be the best. A subtle play on Phillistines. The added a is needed to make the word roll off the tongue though which slightly diminishes the immediate connection. Still I think it conjures the desired imagery and is far less directly insulting than wiitard.

     But according to cognitive dissonance, you can convince yourself that you enjoy something, and not even know that you don't enjoy it.  In effect, if you're working at a factory where you have to work at a very boring task like sticking paper clips together all day and you have to do it for very low wages, you will convince yourself that you really enjoy the job rather than admit that you hate it because by believing you enjoy it, you are fulfilling your own feelings of self worth.

    Wiistian is the best word because it rhymes with Christian and Nintendo fans that say that Wii games can do know wrong are the Nintendo version of Christians.  Most people don't know the word Philistines, but everybody knows the word Christian and what one is talking about when they make a statement about Christians.  Wiiligious Zealot is pretty good, but I was trying to be less insulting than to say "Wii cultist" which I would say is about the same thing.

 

 



Heavens to Murgatoids.

Gnizmo on 16 January 2009

They might work for most people I suppose. I chose Phillistine specifically because it is associated with the uncultured, and unwashed masses. It retains the air of disdain while added a level of sophistication to the insult making it work better all around. I might be over-thinking it though.



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Alasted on 16 January 2009
PhalanxCO said:
Gnizmo said:
BTFeather55 said: 

      Yeah, but I don't like to have to pay $50.00 to have to think for myself. And what you're saying, have you ever heard of the social psychological principle of cognitive dissonance?  It basically says that if you are compelled to do something, then you will say that you really enjoy it more because you want to have a justification for why you enjoy something other than admit the truth about it.

 I have done experiments on it in fact. It does not in anyway apply here though. At least not in the way you seem to want to apply it. Unfortunately for you the reason people are defending the game is likely because they actually enjoyed the game. Unless the people here are somehow compelled to respond (which they are not) this is just a genuine reflection of their personal views.

 

Famousringo said:

Wiistian? That's terrible. Even Wiitard was a better word than that.

Try something that actually rolls off the tongue, like Wiipublican or Wiiligious zealot.

 I think Wiiastines would be the best. A subtle play on Phillistines. The added a is needed to make the word roll off the tongue though which slightly diminishes the immediate connection. Still I think it conjures the desired imagery and is far less directly insulting than wiitard.

How about:

Wiigyptians?  Wiidomites?Wiibylonians?

 

Wiibrews?



O-D-C on 16 January 2009

I bought it I like it, so screw off IGN.



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BTFeather55 on 16 January 2009
Gnizmo said:
They might work for most people I suppose. I chose Phillistine specifically because it is associated with the uncultured, and unwashed masses. It retains the air of disdain while added a level of sophistication to the insult making it work better all around. I might be over-thinking it though.

 

      Maybe Wiisenes is better?  The Essenes were always looking for their Messiah to come along.



Heavens to Murgatoids.

sethnintendo on 16 January 2009
irstupid said:
sethnintendo said:
Yea, Sonic Adventure 2: Battle was pretty tight. I used to play the crap out of that game and my Chao was bad ass.

 

Is that what those little creatures where called?  I spent quite a bit of tiem with them.  You know feeding them certain items and all that and getting like Angel ones and sweet devil looking ones and all that.  I dont' remember what the point was of them.  Couldn't they go into their own little olympic type games or something.

 

But yea I just saw IGN gave that game like a 6.7 or something.  Man seems like some of the non-(brawl, kart or other amazing multiplayer games) games that I have close to 100 hours on are all rated below 7's.

 

Yea, you could enter your Chao in a bunch of races that had swimming, running, and flying involved.  Yea, I probably sunk about 100+ hours in that game.  I loved getting all those toys they could play with like t.v., ball, and teach them things like music (if you had a few of them that had music lessons they would all bust out an instrument and start playing together sometimes).



Gnizmo on 16 January 2009

BTFeather55 said:

    But according to cognitive dissonance, you can convince yourself that you enjoy something, and not even know that you don't enjoy it.  In effect, if you're working at a factory where you have to work at a very boring task like sticking paper clips together all day and you have to do it for very low wages, you will convince yourself that you really enjoy the job rather than admit that you hate it because by believing you enjoy it, you are fulfilling your own feelings of self worth.

 Yes, but you are missing a central point to all of it. You have to be compelled to do the task for it to actually kick in. If you can choose to quit at anytime with no ill-effect then there is no need for the individual to trick him/herself into actually enjoying it more than they would. Voluntarily playing a game does not fall under that category. You are mis-applying the theory.

 If you want a better way to make your point I can offer you one. Attack the fan review sites over say IGN. Given that both are compelled to review the game the theory can apply. The fansites are going to give a more glowing and positive review befause they have gotten little, if any, compensation. IGN reviewers will be (relatively) well paid for their work however, giving it a less positive spin. Random fans (and detractors) of the game will not really be applicable as they are just voicing their opinions because thats what they want to do and not really be subject to the same principles as the other two. Make sense?



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Gnizmo on 16 January 2009
BTFeather55 said:
Gnizmo said:
They might work for most people I suppose. I chose Phillistine specifically because it is associated with the uncultured, and unwashed masses. It retains the air of disdain while added a level of sophistication to the insult making it work better all around. I might be over-thinking it though.

 

      Maybe Wiisenes is better?  The Essenes were always looking for their Messiah to come along.

 No that would be more for the PS3 really. The constant "XXXX game will save the PS#!!!" by the obnoxious over-zealous fanboys fits the messiah build. Wiidomites has some potentia now that I think about it, as Sodomites are also viewed rather negatively in the past. Wiibrews is just kind of funny so I likes it.



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PhalanxCO on 16 January 2009
Alasted said:
PhalanxCO said:
Gnizmo said:
BTFeather55 said: 

      Yeah, but I don't like to have to pay $50.00 to have to think for myself. And what you're saying, have you ever heard of the social psychological principle of cognitive dissonance?  It basically says that if you are compelled to do something, then you will say that you really enjoy it more because you want to have a justification for why you enjoy something other than admit the truth about it.

 I have done experiments on it in fact. It does not in anyway apply here though. At least not in the way you seem to want to apply it. Unfortunately for you the reason people are defending the game is likely because they actually enjoyed the game. Unless the people here are somehow compelled to respond (which they are not) this is just a genuine reflection of their personal views.

 

Famousringo said:

Wiistian? That's terrible. Even Wiitard was a better word than that.

Try something that actually rolls off the tongue, like Wiipublican or Wiiligious zealot.

 I think Wiiastines would be the best. A subtle play on Phillistines. The added a is needed to make the word roll off the tongue though which slightly diminishes the immediate connection. Still I think it conjures the desired imagery and is far less directly insulting than wiitard.

How about:

Wiigyptians?  Wiidomites?Wiibylonians?

 

Wiibrews?

 

How did I miss that one?