theprof00 said:
Rhonin the wizard said:
theprof00 said:
Rhonin the wizard said:
@theprof00
You asked to what gamers has Nintendo been catering for the past year, for me the last year is 2008. I gave a list of all the games published by Nintendo in 2008, I didn't leave out titles. If you ask me, I think they have been catering to just about everybody, they have games for new gamers(Wii Fit, Wii Music), game for their long time fans (Super Smash Bros. Brawl, Mario Super Sluggers, Wario Land: Shake It!, Animal Crossing: City Folk), games for people that might have stopped gaming and want to play games they have missed(GC games and VC games), games for those that want something new(Endless Ocean, Captain Rainbow, Art Style series), and this is without taking the DS in consideration, Also, you brought up sales for no reason. As bdbdbd said you are moving the goal post.
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I think the crux of your argument (which, if I can assume that you are taking a position against mine) is that bolded snippet.
However, you change the viewpoint with that wording "long time fans". Long time fans =/= core gamers, but by wording it that way you can include 2 casual games into a category that was supposed to be defined as gamer's games and make it look better than it really is.
(I played Bubsy back in the day, does that make bubsy a gamer's game? No, it was a horrible game)
As for the other two games in that list SSBB is ten months old and Shake-it is probably the only game that I can agree with you is a gamer's game, but not by much. To me Wii fit, music, sluggers, Animal crossing, vc games, ocean, rainbow, art style, are all meant to be interesting to people who don't play video games.
Quick summary: I haven't seen anything SSBB calibur in ten months with the exception of shake it and maybe MaBoShi.
But then again this isn't going to go anywhere because it is my opinion. However, the fact that you are (even if unconsciously) twisting the wording around is showing that you have something to prove, and makes me think that my argument does have some grounding.
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To me Nintendo's core gamers are their long time fans, and I thought 'long time fans' sounded better than 'core gamers' and I didn't want repeat the word 'gamers' so many times. And if Mario Super Sluggers and Animal Crossing: City Folk are for casual gamers, to whom did their predecessors sell on the GameCube? Also, what is a gamer's game?
And do you even have a Wii?
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I already said, games of SSBB, TP, SMG, calibur. Being a fan of something doesn't make it good. And also those aren't really defined as core either because core just means what the majority of the people buy. For the wii, wii fit is a core game, along with SSBB and MKwii, and SMG, wii sports and so on.
So, I don't think using "core" is any better. Like I said this is all going to come down to preference because I can say "great games" and you can say you think wii fit is great. So, whatever.
I had a Wii, I got it for SSBB and I was let down really bad. SSBB is still a great game, but for me, that franchise was godly, and this installment wasn't, because they made it too accessible, even though it was already plenty accessible before.
Now my girlfriends sister owns it, and she's a hardcore gamer. She has about 20+ games or more which I routinely play 5-10 hours a week. I've mastered wii sports and unlocked everything in boom blox. Beat mario 64 (again..) and even attempted to play wii music (barf)
I've played a LOT of wii games, and they are fun. But if there was an HD console next to it I think I would put down the wiimote and play tekken, cod4, MGS4, Fifa....etc etc..... The only reason I really play it is because I am an addict. Some interestig games coming in the future though. I'm getting her Oneechanbara day 1.
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