@ papfesje -

The issue of them developing so many games on the X360 comes down to market timing - The Xbox 360 was an available console with a growing install base well before Playstation 3 development kits came out. So their options were to develop on a potentially good console (that was very similar to the PS3 in case sales were bad and needed port), or risk having no games lined up in 2007-2008 due to the delay in production for the PS3.

We've seen in at least 1 games' case (TLR) it's come down to them being unable to develop for the Playstation 3 using Unreal Engine 3. With Star Ocean 4, the developers said themselves, and directly, that it came down to having 360 dev kits well before PS3 dev kits - had they of gone with the PS3, they'd still be months if not years out from Star Ocean 4, and with no other games being able to be produced, they would have lost money (developers still need to get paid regardless if they're making a game or not).

In hindsight was the X360 the best bet for exclusivity on those games? The argument could be made. However developers didn't have that kind of foresight - and even then, seeing how abysmal PS3 sales have been, it could also be aruged they made a good (but not great) choice to go with the 360 - the better one would have been the Wii.

@ KillerMan -

You must realize that there's a difference between the first version of Final Fantasy XIII for Japan and the North American XIII version - The major reason for delays in the games has been that Square has always begun the translation after or nearly after the Japanese version has released. Because of this, there may be some delay due to translation, and not actual production of the game. So because of this delay, it's feasable that the translation will be worked on and produced in tandem with the actual porting of XIII to the 360 for the West.

So because of that, there wouldn't be an actual delay - While they are working on the VA and textual translation to the PS3, they would be doing the same for the X360 + the actual port work. If both were done in tandem, there shouldn't be a delay because they'd still have to ensure the Playstation 3 version was Q&A'd properly for a Western version, just like the 360 version.

if not in eu, i'll just import from america anyway.

papflesje said: @ ookaze: no offense, but English crap is still better than any dubbed version in French, German, Italian or whatever :-/ (I refer to basically every show and movie on God's green earth)

Very good, you've understood it half way. Now imagine getting every japanese games in french subtitled in english. Then you'll understand the pain we go through.

Still better than French dub :p

I'm so happy it is coming out in 2009! :D

ookaze said: Even in France, the biggest market behind UK, we nearly always get the crappy english version with french subtitles. The only games that don't are those that have very few dialogs and that are succesful, at least in other regions. So they are really rare, and for FF we always get the crappy english version. Of course, as we don't get our language, the best course of action would be at least to get the original japanese voices. But no, instead, we get these crappy english voices, which doesn't make any sense (actually it does but only for laziness). To understand how retarded it is for english speakers, just imagine getting all your japanese games dubbed in french and subtitled in english. The latest game I got that had native language was the Fire Emblem for Wii, which is why I bought the european version. And you can be sure if the previous FF weren't in native language with crappy english versions, this will be the case for FFXIII too. That's why I always import. I won't support such shitty behaviour. That's also one of the core advantage the PS3 had: region free and enough space to hold both original voices and the crappy english ones.

Hmm but think about bright side Blu Ray disc is huge - there's great chance we might actually get orginal japanise audio in addition to english dubs (this option rocked in VC)

 

Zlejedi said: ookaze said: Even in France, the biggest market behind UK, we nearly always get the crappy english version with french subtitles. The only games that don't are those that have very few dialogs and that are succesful, at least in other regions. So they are really rare, and for FF we always get the crappy english version. Of course, as we don't get our language, the best course of action would be at least to get the original japanese voices. But no, instead, we get these crappy english voices, which doesn't make any sense (actually it does but only for laziness). To understand how retarded it is for english speakers, just imagine getting all your japanese games dubbed in french and subtitled in english. The latest game I got that had native language was the Fire Emblem for Wii, which is why I bought the european version. And you can be sure if the previous FF weren't in native language with crappy english versions, this will be the case for FFXIII too. That's why I always import. I won't support such shitty behaviour. That's also one of the core advantage the PS3 had: region free and enough space to hold both original voices and the crappy english ones. Hmm but think about bright side Blu Ray disc is huge - there's great chance we might actually get orginal japanise audio in addition to english dubs (this option rocked in VC)

 

that would be awesome, i really really hated the dubs in ff10. Japanese voices is so much better

 

And you really believe that? I wonder why other Japanese companies like Konami, Sega and Capcom have already released exclusives or there games simultainiously with the Xbox 360 version and Square-enix hasn't.

Infinite Undiscovery was financed by Microsoft and they own the IP, so this case is pretty clear. The Last Remnant wasn't even polished on the Xbox 360, and should have been a couple of months more in devolopement.

Square-enix did likely get money from Microsoft (who else?) to release the game during the holiday season in Japan, because they (microsoft) needed a "big" title for those days.

Not releasing Star Ocean: The Last Hope simultainiously or for the PS3, makes as much sense as not releasing Devil May Cry 4, Fifa 08 or Tomb Raider for the PS3. Yes, the game will likely come to the PS3, but everyone knows that timed-exclusivity kills a lot of the potential sales in the west, in Japan not so much.

Does anyone remember that during an half year or more Star Ocean IV was coming for the next-gen consoles, which means more than one?

masterb8tr said: if not in eu, i'll just import from america anyway.

 

This.

 

Wasn't expecting for it to come out in '09 but if it does, :D so many games comin out in '09

Squall_Leonhart said: What about the EU? Or are we last again (as usual )

If you're a PS3 owner and cant wait, import. You don't have the burden of region locks.

2009 is gonna be SOME year! I better finish whatever I'm playing before FF XIII hits!