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Kasz216 said:
NJ5 said:

@Kasz216: Well as I said before, the problem is probably not in the emulator, but in the required firmware which the emulators require. The emulator would most likely be legal unless it uses part of the firmware.

 

Yeah.  You'd have to independently engineer it.

If microsoft really wanted to though... they could pull it off.

 

 

That would be amazing... maybe MS should look into this to combat "Sony's upcoming Pricecut"....

 

lol

 



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wholikeswood said:
gebx said:
What would happen if MS announced that the 360 could play PS2 games??

Would never happen. Would be a field day for Sony's lawyers...

 

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Sony never won a lawsuit against them.



If this is true it might halt PS3s slide into irrelevance. Removing the backwards compatibility was the #1 mistake about the PS3s.

 



FishyJoe said:
If it was so cheap to do this, wouldn't they have done it already?

 

I am pretty sure they intentionally block backward compatibility to make more sales on PS2 (and PS3), using PS2 to cover the lose on PS3.



okay who honestly still wants backwards compatibility?

1. If you love your PS2 collection so much, keep your PS2 plugged in

2. If your new to Playstation and bought a PS3 then you have no PS2 collection, and therefore you don't need BC.



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I have a 80GB PS3 that has the PS2 GPU in it so I have software emulation. I barely use the 80GB PS3 for backwards compatibility for PS2 games. I bought a PS2 Slim just 3 months ago cause I was fed up with the glitches some games had on the 80GB PS3.

If anyone cares about backwards compatibility so much they should just buy a PS2 Slim. They are $130US. Not hard to find. It's worth the admission if you want to still play PS2 games. I bought mine and love it without any problems. I'm currently playing God of War.



By now I tend to think they wil indeed leave it out until their next gen when the ps2 will be truly gone.
Though it would make sense to add it, it will fit in with their value added strategy they advertise. Or value re-added.

I'll be more interested in an emulator though if it were a way to bypass region locking, because it makes little sense when you can buy a ps1 game from any of the psn stores and play it on your ps3, but can't do that if you already own the game, and this applies to something like 70% of my ps1/ps2 games unless I'm to buy three ps3s.

Upscaling does feel good though, I loved Odin Sphere on the ps3. Then again I too have the 80gig software emulation one, and when it got stuck a few hours into Tales of the Abyss, I just went on to play the undub on my ps2.

richardhutnik said:
Emulation enables them to do what Microsoft did with the XBox games: Put them up on their marketplace and resell them. Being able to emulate competently keeps a game like R-Type Final, and other games, alive. It would also enable God of War to be on sale.

I'm stumped as of why Sony doesn't seem to think that much of it, but they have done so little for ps1 titles on the psn (outside of Japan at least).



Kasz216 said:
FilaBrasileiro said:
Kasz216 said:
markers said:
Kasz216 said:
gebx said:
What would happen if MS announced that the 360 could play PS2 games??

I doubt they could announce it.  Someone making a PS2 emulator could probably rig one to work on a 360 if they really felt like it... framerates would be horrible though.

What people don't realize is that emulators have to emulate the system.

Its still up in the air whether the 360 and PS3 would have enough juice to emulate the other "half" of the PS2.... AND play games at a good framerate.

 

and there might be a lawsuit or two filed?

Emulators are perfectly legal.

To my knowledge anyway.

Infact plenty of oldschool systems emulated Atari games i believe.

Like coleecovision or something did.

Unless they've changed the laws since then it'd be perfectly legal... it'd just make it look like you had no faith in your own product.

 

I doubt it you could legally run PS2 emulators on the 360, you can only run SNES, NES and N64 emulators on the PSP through CFW and illegal hacking, I don't see this being any different, MS would not get themselves in a position where they would have to give Sony a lot of money.

No seriously, it's legal.  Or at least it was back in the day.  One of the really old systems around the Atari era played a completly different companys games.

It's just... why do that when most companies lose money on sales, or make a minor profit... and all the liscensing for those games would go to your competitor.

 

Didn't the maker of Bleem!, the PS1 emulator, got sued by SONY and lost? True, they charged money for it and as far as I know the maker of  *****, another PS1 emulator, never got sued because of it. Or any other one for that matter, even the one that let you play SNES and Genesis game on the PS2, which I really can see Nintendo and SEGA having problem with.

As far as software emulation got, I think you are right, it may well be the fact that the PS3 simply isn't powerful enough to emulate the PS2. Looking at *****, the recomended spec are pretty high and the ideal one are from speculated hardware, one that doesn't even exist yet. Sure the emulator isn't optimised yet but still...

 



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Malachi said:

As far as software emulation got, I think you are right, it may well be the fact that the PS3 simply isn't powerful enough to emulate the PS2.

 

It is probably to difficult to emulate. The PS-2 was well known for the dirty tricks that were used to implement some effects. So you can't simply translate the orders but you have to emulate at least parts of the circuitry.



Sony has been rumored to be working on PS2 software emulation since 2005.
In fact, the PS3 was never supposed to have PS2 hardware in it, it was supposed to be all software emulation.
People assumed they gave up when backwards compatability was completely removed from new PS3 models.



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