Just shows Hamas does have Palestinians who are against them. I have routinely made that claim. If Israel dramatically reduced its aggression, Hamas would lose support.
Just shows Hamas does have Palestinians who are against them. I have routinely made that claim. If Israel dramatically reduced its aggression, Hamas would lose support.
| superchunk said: @Bubbles. |
that is absolute bullshit. quit spreading your hateful lies.
"I like my steaks how i like my women. Bloody and all over my face"
"Its like sex, but with a winner!"

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that is absolute bullshit. quit spreading your hateful lies. |
If you say so bubbles.
http://www.lrcj.org/Departments/Human_Rights/Cases/2001/October-2001.htm
http://www.multaqa.org/etemplate.php?id=1089
http://www.greenleft.org.au/2005/641/33868
http://www.antiwar.com/ips/biedermann.php?articleid=2093
http://www.albionmonitor.com/0805a/israeliarabhealth.html
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1036798.html - This is particularly interesting as Olmert is saying it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_citizens_of_Israel#Legal_status_in_Israeli_law
"Arab perceptions of citizenship status
Many Arab citizens feel that the state, as well as society at large, not only actively limits them to second-class citizenship, but treats them as enemies, impacting their perception of the de jure versus de facto quality of their citizenship.[107] The joint document The Future Vision of the Palestinian Arabs in Israel, asserts: "Defining the Israeli State as a Jewish State and exploiting democracy in the service of its Jewishness excludes us, and creates tension between us and the nature and essence of the State." The document explains that by definition the "Jewish State" concept is based on ethnically preferential treatment towards Jews enshrined in immigration (the Law of Return) and land policy (the Jewish National Fund), and calls for the establishment of minority rights protections enforced by an independent anti-discrimination commission.[108]"
As I said, most laws are intended to be equal, however, that doesn't stop the actual Jews majority from doing differently and the Judicial system from turning away.
superchunk said:
If you say so bubbles. http://www.lrcj.org/Departments/Human_Rights/Cases/2001/October-2001.htm http://www.multaqa.org/etemplate.php?id=1089 http://www.greenleft.org.au/2005/641/33868 http://www.antiwar.com/ips/biedermann.php?articleid=2093 http://www.albionmonitor.com/0805a/israeliarabhealth.html http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1036798.html - This is particularly interesting as Olmert is saying it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_citizens_of_Israel#Legal_status_in_Israeli_law "Arab perceptions of citizenship status Many Arab citizens feel that the state, as well as society at large, not only actively limits them to second-class citizenship, but treats them as enemies, impacting their perception of the de jure versus de facto quality of their citizenship.[107] The joint document The Future Vision of the Palestinian Arabs in Israel, asserts: "Defining the Israeli State as a Jewish State and exploiting democracy in the service of its Jewishness excludes us, and creates tension between us and the nature and essence of the State." The document explains that by definition the "Jewish State" concept is based on ethnically preferential treatment towards Jews enshrined in immigration (the Law of Return) and land policy (the Jewish National Fund), and calls for the establishment of minority rights protections enforced by an independent anti-discrimination commission.[108]" As I said, most laws are intended to be equal, however, that doesn't stop the actual Jews majority from doing differently and the Judicial system from turning away. |
so lets see...that quote talks about how they feel...nothing about what actually happens. whats even better is that you quote from something that refutes your claims. so way to own yourself.
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Did you even look beyond my quote?
Sure the quote has no direct examples, I didn't put it there for that. I put it there to illustrate that, that is also the sentiment amongst Arab-Israelis. Follow the many links to see better examples of some of the things I mentioned, including Olmert himself saying the same thing.
| superchunk said: Did you even look beyond my quote? Sure the quote has no direct examples, I didn't put it there for that. I put it there to illustrate that, that is also the sentiment amongst Arab-Israelis. Follow the many links to see better examples of some of the things I mentioned, including Olmert himself saying the same thing. |
yeah...its an arab created cycle. and olmert thinks they could do more by implementing racist hiring practices where they give jobs based on race rather than ability.
of course...that doesnt really help your one point and most of the links dont even address the others. the only one that does refutes your claims. so admit you were lying.
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No, Olmert is admitting there is a problem and he is giving a potential solution. Not one I fully agree with as I don't like Affirmative Action here in the US which was a result of minorities getting shafted here and very similar to Olmert's plan.
The other articles mostly discuss the fact that Arabs cannot acquire land equally to Jews. It also discusses how land has been stolen from Arabs in Jerusalem over the years.
You are obviously in either denial or just lying.
| superchunk said:
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This is just a small pack of commies, hippies and so called self hating jews.
Minor groups of the same kind of individuals thrive in all modern Western societies.
| superchunk said: No, Olmert is admitting there is a problem and he is giving a potential solution. Not one I fully agree with as I don't like Affirmative Action here in the US which was a result of minorities getting shafted here and very similar to Olmert's plan. The other articles mostly discuss the fact that Arabs cannot acquire land equally to Jews. It also discusses how land has been stolen from Arabs in Jerusalem over the years. You are obviously in either denial or just lying. |
http://www.palestinefacts.org/pf_1991to_now_israel_land.php
that clearly and simply explains the land issue since you seem to be having issues.....
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| superchunk said: Did you even look beyond my quote? Sure the quote has no direct examples, I didn't put it there for that. I put it there to illustrate that, that is also the sentiment amongst Arab-Israelis. Follow the many links to see better examples of some of the things I mentioned, including Olmert himself saying the same thing. |
Your quote sounds like the US today Superchunk.
The only difference is the United States isn't explicityly lised as a home for white people or some such.
The government seems extremely tolerant actually... not banning a party who's leader said....
"Return Palestine to us and take your democracy with you. We Arabs are not interested in it".
