misterd said:
megaman79 said:
NJ5 said:
Yes, the other day I was at McDonald's in Tokyo and I hear two ipod-wielding Japanese saying how much they hated the 360 because of the war.
Unfortunately then they had to leave to watch The Dark Knight at the cinema, so I couldn't hear the rest of the conversation.
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Ive heard some strange things about their history. Apparently noone discusses what happened at the end of WW2. Its just not talked about in history classes, maybe at university.
Some deal with the indigenous minority Ainu?, no one talks about it. Maybe its got to do with what someone else said, the collectivist democracy ideal, you don't rock the boat or behave independantly because of the groups importance.
On topic. No, i dk for sure but i think japanese today don't care, they don't seem to give a shit about their extremely conservative governments so why the 360?
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I've heard (and have no way of knowing - would love to know though) that some schools teach that Pearl Harbor was an elaborate trap set by the Americans to start a war.
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It's somewhat a fringe theory, but it has basis in reality. The public sentiment of the US at the time was ardently anti-war, and they did not want to get involved in Europe's problems. FDR recognized that it really wasn't in the US's long term interest to have a powerful Nazi Germany on one side and a powerful Japanese presence in the Pacific, but he couldn't do much to force a war. The theory states that the US knew when and where the Japanese were going to attack and let it happen so the US would have an excuse to declare war on Japan and thus enter the war against Germany and Italy as well. Nobody on the Axis side wanted US in the war because of the difficulty of attacking the mainland, the relatively large population and massive industrial base the US possessed. Japan considered the US embargo to be essentially a declaration of war against them, and hoped that by knocking out the Pacific fleet, the US would no longer be able to project naval power in the Pacific and would stand down.
The reality is probably more in the middle. We knew there was probably going to be an attack, but not 100% sure where or when. We ignored signs that it was going to an attack on Pearl Harbor, and was thus unprepared for the scale of the attack (after all, if we knew it would've been much more effective for the US to be attacked, but also manage to inflict massive damage on the Japanese fleet in a counter-attack). But the allied leaders certainly weren't complaining, since FDR got his popular support for war, and they say Churchill said " We've won the war" after hearing Pearl Harbor was attacked.
Sorry for the long winded history there, I enjoy reading about WW2.
I've been in Japanese elementary and middle school though, and can say for certain that WW2 is touched upon rather extensively. They take a strange viewpoint though. If I had to describe, they look at it almost as if it was divine punishment or an act of nature, which actually fits in with the Japanese cultural mentality. Atrocities are mentioned but not extensively covered outside of the Holocaust (though that could be because of age of the students). Pacifism is strongly stressed. There are school that do use textbooks that gloss over these facts, but it was something like 10 out of 10,000 schools that ordered them.
The last time I was there, the right-wing nationalists were viewed as being essentially bat-shit insane and Yakuza connected people, so I wouldn't say it's a popular ideology.
As far as the Ainu go, they don't really teach much about them. But at the same time, it's an unfortunate reality that almost every country glosses over the status of their oppressed minorities (US/Mexico/Argentina/etc. and Native Americans, Australia and Aboriginies, Taiwan and the native Taiwanese, Muslims in European countries, the list goes on). That's not to excuse the Japanese, but it's unfortunately not an unusual thing anywhere in the world.