Then I wash my hands of the conversation. There's no way to argue with something that blatantly illogical.

Good day, sir.

Correct. I think it will be more like 4 mil for ODST and 3 mil for HWARS.

There is nothing to argue really.

Im not trying to make a political statement here. Just saying that masses tend to be like sheep. If every 20th person buying Gears 1 and 2 says "Ok, patriotism and war is not in now. Instead ill go and buy another type of game" for gears 3...and gears 2 sells 7 million...gears 3 loses ~40000 in sales.

Trust me I know what I'm talking about. I grew up in former Yugoslavia during a war... Last thing anyone wants to do there right now is have anything to do with the word war.

I guess your one of those nuts that think since Obama is bringing a Wii to the White House there will be a dramatic uptick of sales for the Wii?  This kind of thinking is seriously flawed.  When was the last time you went to buy a game and thought, since the troops are over in Iraq I will be patriotic and buy Gears 2?  I look at the gameplay and buy it on that purpose and I am sure 99%  of people out there do the same.  

If anything, those troops returning will buy the shootem ups more so since they are home and have more sparetime.  Giving the game an uptick in sales.

I will buy anything that remotly has to do with shooting killing things. Eved Deer hunter...lol. I'm just talking about what I think generic public will do. Not jsut gears...COD as well may see a trend where it will sell less than its predeccessors. But that could be because they are milking the series at this point too :)

You have a right to think or believe what you want, that is not what I am saying.  But for the most part Americans don't really give a damn about what our Political leaders do in their personal lives, well atleast since JFK was assassinated.   

I agreee...but the media is still the strongest influence in North America.

When Senator Pailin was announced as VP candidate, all the entertainment media channels made a big deal about the clothes, purses, glasses and shoes she wore all the time...and those items became HUGE sellers...despite being worthless items.

If troops get pulled, media has to make it seem like America is doing the right thing and will hype peace, prosperity, harmony etc...and I believe the mass market will eat it up.

It really has nothing to do with Obama actually.

Im not saying those games will stop selling at all, but that they may tred down a bit compared to predecessors.

"If troops get pulled, media has to make it seem like America is doing the right thing and will hype peace, prosperity, harmony etc...and I believe the mass market will eat it up."

While it would be nice to think that this is the way things will or should work it is highly unlikely.  If you go back and look at  some of the stuff that happend directly after the Vietnam War or the First Gulf War, you will probably have a different opinion. 

Like I said in an earlier post, the soldiers returning will buy this stuff up much more so since they have spare time ( giving action / shooter games added sales ).  These guys are warriors and to simply think they will some how turn into peacenicks is absurd to me.  

Guys, guys, troops, the media, Bush, Obama....WTF?

OT: I think Gears and Halo are awesome. I am giving due credit.

I did laugh my balls off at the " macho fuck-yeah" comment, cause that is a real state of mind for many knuckle heads.

Halo 3 can sell another 2-3 million on X360. and I think there will be a PC release!

Halo Wars can sell 4 million on X360. What about PC ?

Halo ODST can sell more than 5 million IMO !

So without Chronicles . Halo can sell more than 12 million

I don't know anything about Chronicles but if it will sell like Halo 3 (or more ?), the total may reach 25 million

It's very very hard but halo can do it!