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Forums - Sony - Kaz says Little Big Planet sold 1.3 million-- oh noes! Did I win my bet?

2 things that need to be looked at to see if TWestern won his bet:

1) Doe this count bundles?
2) Is this up to date? If not give us the date that the 1.3 million is from

Also, I can't be bothered to verify, but someone should, Stringer was apparently using numbers from FY '08 Q2, so maybe Kaz is not using numbers that are up to date like we have here.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=14293452&postcount=216

44.5m for the PSP
16.8m for the PS3.

He is using the shipment figures form Octobers FY08 Q2 financial report.



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DMeisterJ said:

That was weird. >_>

Anyhoo, Kaz said 'played', that's all I'm saying, and I'd like to reserve judgment until we get someone to say 'shipped'.  If someone says '1.3 million shipped', then that's what it is, but he said 'played'.  So sue me.  >_>

Gamespot, NeoGAF, and Kotaku have all quoted him as saying "sold", not "played".



FishyJoe said:
alephnull said:
Sony execs need to start doing all press briefings in a language with a context free grammar.

 

Maybe you don't understand the purpose of press statements. Making things clear and concise isn't the goal.

 

I suppose it's a matter how you see these things. From this company I see more incompetence than malice. Sony probably has the worst ministry of propaganda since Atari. They probably couldn't sell immortality either.



DMeisterJ said:

That was weird. >_>

Anyhoo, Kaz said 'played', that's all I'm saying, and I'd like to reserve judgment until we get someone to say 'shipped'.  If someone says '1.3 million shipped', then that's what it is, but he said 'played'.  So sue me.  >_>

 

Where did he say played?  I don't see that quoted anywhere, and I read many reports quoting him already.

Also, he'd have to say, "according to the NPD" if they were actually sold-to-consumer copies or else he simply would not know. 

C'mon, you've been here for a while.

I suppose it's a matter how you see these things. From this company I see more incompetence than malice. Sony probably has the worst ministry of propaganda since Atari. They probably couldn't sell immortality either.

Stating that the $199 Xbox 360 arcade will actually cost you $499 and therefore Sony is the cheapest isn't malice to you?  Consider that two of the costs: $150 hard drive and $100 wireless adaptor are obviously intended to be misleading as:

(1) the "$150" hard drive upgrade is available in the Xbox 360 premium and

(2) No hardcore gamers would use wireless for online as wired is /always/ better.

And then they added in "The Xbox 360 didn't always come with HDMI on all models."  What does that have to do with it?  Well, nothing, but it's standard FUD practice to willfully mislead.



Khuutra said:
DMeisterJ said:

That was weird. >_>

Anyhoo, Kaz said 'played', that's all I'm saying, and I'd like to reserve judgment until we get someone to say 'shipped'.  If someone says '1.3 million shipped', then that's what it is, but he said 'played'.  So sue me.  >_>

Gamespot, NeoGAF, and Kotaku have all quoted him as saying "sold", not "played".

The Gamestop liveblog had it as 'played', as I was reading that when I posted that, and I said that in the Sony CES thread.  He definitely said 'played'.

And IGN said this:

IGN live blog read


9:44: Kaz talks PSN. 17 million registered accounts all over the world. 2.1 million new accounts in the last month. Talks about LittleBigPlanet as great
example of Sony's PSN flexibility in motion. Says 1.3 million people playing LBP. 300,000 levels online Brief demo.

So...

And Link:  http://ps3.ign.com/articles/942/942778p1.html



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well this is one of those things that will never be cleared up.

but what will be cleared up is LBP from what ive played of it is better than any 360 title ive ever played.

LBP is more than possible to be overtracked but not by that much, its not as if right this minit LBP is to stop selling and taken off shelfs,it will keep selling and overall LBP would have a high sell through i think.

this time next year ppl will look back and laugh.



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DMeisterJ said:
Khuutra said:
DMeisterJ said:

That was weird. >_>

Anyhoo, Kaz said 'played', that's all I'm saying, and I'd like to reserve judgment until we get someone to say 'shipped'.  If someone says '1.3 million shipped', then that's what it is, but he said 'played'.  So sue me.  >_>

Gamespot, NeoGAF, and Kotaku have all quoted him as saying "sold", not "played".

The Gamestop liveblog had it as 'played', as I was reading that when I posted that, and I said that in the Sony CES thread.  He definitely said 'played'.

And IGN said this:

IGN live blog read


9:44: Kaz talks PSN. 17 million registered accounts all over the world. 2.1 million new accounts in the last month. Talks about LittleBigPlanet as great
example of Sony's PSN flexibility in motion. Says 1.3 million people playing LBP. 300,000 levels online Brief demo.

So...

And Link:  http://ps3.ign.com/articles/942/942778p1.html

So.. explain...

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6202853.html

[9:48] Hirai talks up Little Big Planet, which has sold 1.3 million units worldwide.

Once again.... it's just IGN alone here so far.



DMeisterJ said:
Khuutra said:
DMeisterJ said:

That was weird. >_>

Anyhoo, Kaz said 'played', that's all I'm saying, and I'd like to reserve judgment until we get someone to say 'shipped'.  If someone says '1.3 million shipped', then that's what it is, but he said 'played'.  So sue me.  >_>

Gamespot, NeoGAF, and Kotaku have all quoted him as saying "sold", not "played".

The Gamestop liveblog had it as 'played', as I was reading that when I posted that, and I said that in the Sony CES thread.  He definitely said 'played'.

And IGN said this:

IGN live blog read


9:44: Kaz talks PSN. 17 million registered accounts all over the world. 2.1 million new accounts in the last month. Talks about LittleBigPlanet as great
example of Sony's PSN flexibility in motion. Says 1.3 million people playing LBP. 300,000 levels online Brief demo.

So...

And Link:  http://ps3.ign.com/articles/942/942778p1.html

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?id=1649446

The liveblog right now says the 1.3 million copies were sold. Kotaku and NeoGAF check out the same way.



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In other words with Stringer saying "PS3 and PS3 "userbase" is now at 61.3M" he is saying they have shipped 61.3M total combined?

So we are now to assume now that VGChartz has also overtracked the PSP and/or PS3 this Holiday season seeing as how

A. Sony says PS3+PSP "userbase" is at 61.3M. (Now means shipped)
B. VGChartz currently stands at 62.7M installed base. (Means sold)
C. Means VGChartz has

1. Overtracked LBP by 500k.
2. Overtracked PS3 and PSP by a combined 1.4M this year.
3. PS3 is sold out WW. (Yeah right, lol, they sell more than they make)

or we just come to the conclusion so far that these numbers are most likely not up to date and probably from mid-December.

Am I way off are did I figure that out so far?

Sorry, I am really trying here. If I am wrong then I learn something new.

I am asking these questions in general interest. Hey, maybe I might find out something.

By the way, when everyone talks about "bundles not being counted", when they are not counted does that mean those numbers do not show up for the game only or do the numbers not show up for the hardware either?



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