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AE86 on 06 January 2009
BKK2 said:
AE86 said:
johnsobas said:
DaGreatestHope said:
Why wont the media mention this? Everytime there is some good PS3 news they stay mum about it but one little bad thing they jump on it and blow it out of porportion.

What you need to think about is the price of the PS3 and thus the price of the games. Of course they cost alot and people wait til things are cheaper especially games because they drop in price fast(just picked up World at War for only $40). So with this logic and this economic recession the PS3 is selling pretty well for its price.

I expect Kotaku and other media gaming sites that usually sprout PS3/Sony negatively to accurately report this news, but fearing their bias I am sure they wont.

Maybe because it's not good news.  It basically confirms that december sales are down from last year in addition to sales being down in november.  The 130% part 100% spin, nothing to talk about.  The 40% YOY is nice but ignores that sales are decreasing and that a few days ago the same man said sales were 60% YOY (http://www.endsights.com/?p=538).

 

I don't think the 60% YOY part was in reference to NA only, as its only until after that is mentioned that Ian Jackson is quoted, I think the 60% YOY is for Worldwide, and 40% is for NA.

 

It was in reference to US NPD data:

2007 through November = 1.76m
2008 through November = 2.82m

YoY growth = 60%

You should realise that even if PS3 sales increased 30% in December, the annual increase would have dropped from 60% to 50%. Dropping from 60% to 40% only means that December sales were slightly down on 2007. If PS3 sales were flat in December than the annual increase would have still dropped to 42%.

 

 

Ahhh I see, it all adds up then.



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DaGreatestHope on 06 January 2009
johnsobas said:
DaGreatestHope said:

I would rather prefer my product to have a great yearly growth over a few monthly backwards trend.

But then again you must consider the harsh times of the economic recession which will get worse before it can improve. During December of last year more people had their jobs. This December job losses have been at an all time high and an recession not seen since the Great Depression. Believe me, even my own company, FedEx is making job cut and paycheck cuts.

That being said, if we never dipped into this worldwide money crisis, we would see December 08 PS3 sales with a higher percentage tracking.

 

Your point would make sense if 360 and Wii sales weren't up so much higher than last year.  The video game industry actually increased sales this holiday season, just the PS3 didn't.

It is easier to come up with $199 to $250 after paying your monthly bills rather than $399. PS3 sells increased on a year by year basis, far more important than a few monthly spikes.

 



johnsobas on 06 January 2009
DaGreatestHope said:
johnsobas said:
DaGreatestHope said:

I would rather prefer my product to have a great yearly growth over a few monthly backwards trend.

But then again you must consider the harsh times of the economic recession which will get worse before it can improve. During December of last year more people had their jobs. This December job losses have been at an all time high and an recession not seen since the Great Depression. Believe me, even my own company, FedEx is making job cut and paycheck cuts.

That being said, if we never dipped into this worldwide money crisis, we would see December 08 PS3 sales with a higher percentage tracking.

 

Your point would make sense if 360 and Wii sales weren't up so much higher than last year.  The video game industry actually increased sales this holiday season, just the PS3 didn't.

It is easier to come up with $199 to $250 after paying your monthly bills rather than $399. PS3 sells increased on a year by year basis, far more important than a few monthly spikes.

 

which would make sense except

http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=21627

Final numbers aren't in yet but i guarantee you video games (as in $ spent on video games) is gonna be up YOY.  Software sales appear to be up 20% over last year's holiday season.  People are spending MORE money on video games, not less.

 



currently playing: Skyward Sword, Mario Sunshine, Xenoblade Chronicles X

DaGreatestHope on 06 January 2009

People are spending more on video games due to the $60 price tag. Not to mention there are loads of cheap titles available for the 360 and Wii.

It is difficult to find cheaper priced PS3 games unless you buy used, which I dont.

I am not trying to spin anything, just posting on what I see.



johnsobas on 06 January 2009
DaGreatestHope said:
People are spending more on video games due to the $60 price tag. Not to mention there are loads of cheap titles available for the 360 and Wii.

It is difficult to find cheaper priced PS3 games unless you buy used, which I dont.

I am not trying to spin anything, just posting on what I see.

 

ok but the bottom line is they have the money, they are just choosing to spend it on the 360 or wii instead of the ps3 most of the time.



currently playing: Skyward Sword, Mario Sunshine, Xenoblade Chronicles X

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BKK2 on 06 January 2009
johnsobas said:
DaGreatestHope said:
johnsobas said:
DaGreatestHope said:

I would rather prefer my product to have a great yearly growth over a few monthly backwards trend.

But then again you must consider the harsh times of the economic recession which will get worse before it can improve. During December of last year more people had their jobs. This December job losses have been at an all time high and an recession not seen since the Great Depression. Believe me, even my own company, FedEx is making job cut and paycheck cuts.

That being said, if we never dipped into this worldwide money crisis, we would see December 08 PS3 sales with a higher percentage tracking.

 

Your point would make sense if 360 and Wii sales weren't up so much higher than last year.  The video game industry actually increased sales this holiday season, just the PS3 didn't.

It is easier to come up with $199 to $250 after paying your monthly bills rather than $399. PS3 sells increased on a year by year basis, far more important than a few monthly spikes.

 

which would make sense except

http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=21627

Final numbers aren't in yet but i guarantee you video games (as in $ spent on video games) is gonna be up YOY.  Software sales appear to be up 20% over last year's holiday season.  People are spending MORE money on video games, not less.

 

With the reduction in the price of 360, and the drop in PS3 sales then the average console price should be lower this year, which would mean that more people are buying consoles, but individually they are spending less on them.

 



Munkeh111 on 06 January 2009
DaGreatestHope said:
People are spending more on video games due to the $60 price tag. Not to mention there are loads of cheap titles available for the 360 and Wii.

It is difficult to find cheaper priced PS3 games unless you buy used, which I dont.

I am not trying to spin anything, just posting on what I see.

It is not difficult to find cheap PS3 games, they get discounted the same as the rest. If it was in stock, I could get Resistance 2 for £20 or MS 2 for £20 both brand new



johnsobas on 06 January 2009
BKK2 said:
johnsobas said:
DaGreatestHope said:
johnsobas said:
DaGreatestHope said:

I would rather prefer my product to have a great yearly growth over a few monthly backwards trend.

But then again you must consider the harsh times of the economic recession which will get worse before it can improve. During December of last year more people had their jobs. This December job losses have been at an all time high and an recession not seen since the Great Depression. Believe me, even my own company, FedEx is making job cut and paycheck cuts.

That being said, if we never dipped into this worldwide money crisis, we would see December 08 PS3 sales with a higher percentage tracking.

 

Your point would make sense if 360 and Wii sales weren't up so much higher than last year.  The video game industry actually increased sales this holiday season, just the PS3 didn't.

It is easier to come up with $199 to $250 after paying your monthly bills rather than $399. PS3 sells increased on a year by year basis, far more important than a few monthly spikes.

 

which would make sense except

http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=21627

Final numbers aren't in yet but i guarantee you video games (as in $ spent on video games) is gonna be up YOY.  Software sales appear to be up 20% over last year's holiday season.  People are spending MORE money on video games, not less.

 

With the reduction in the price of 360, and the drop in PS3 sales then the average console price should be lower this year, which would mean that more people are buying consoles, but individually they are spending less on them.

 

Yea but only the 360 has a lower price this holiday season.  The higher hardware sales over last year easily makes up for the difference in hardware revenue.  Someone is saying they don't have the money, I call BS because they are spending that much money on video games, just spending it differently.



currently playing: Skyward Sword, Mario Sunshine, Xenoblade Chronicles X

DaGreatestHope on 06 January 2009
Munkeh111 said:
DaGreatestHope said:
People are spending more on video games due to the $60 price tag. Not to mention there are loads of cheap titles available for the 360 and Wii.

It is difficult to find cheaper priced PS3 games unless you buy used, which I dont.

I am not trying to spin anything, just posting on what I see.

It is not difficult to find cheap PS3 games, they get discounted the same as the rest. If it was in stock, I could get Resistance 2 for £20 or MS 2 for £20 both brand new

 

 I live in America. I heard that the European territories have more Greatest Hits titles, including Uncharted. Over here Uncharted is still 60 dollars.

I hate Gamestop and would never buy used, so I had no choice to plop down the 60 for it. One of the best games ever. Cant wait for part 2.

I just got a PS3 in June and have steadly been building up a collection. So far I have R:FOM, Assasian's Creed, Motorstorm 2, Resistance 2, CoD 4, CoD WaW, Tomb Raider, MGS 4, Fight Night, NBA 2k9. Most of those I bought were at 60 bucks.

I am more than satisfied with my collection, but wish some of the older games like HS, Tools of Destruction, etc were a bit more on the cheaper side.



Diomedes1976 on 06 January 2009

Here in Europe the Platinum line isnt very big but it has games like Ratchet and Clank ,Uncharted ,Heavenly Sword ,Virtua Tennis 3 ,Oblivion ...it definitely helps to get some classics .