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Pachter's December NA NPD estimates are out.  Here are his initial predictions.

Wii: 3M (or more)
360: 1.2 to 1.3M
PS3: 700k

Dec NPD numbers are out Jan 15th.



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I'm not sure what dates this December NPD is for, but it seems like he is pretty much equal to VGC on Ps3 and Wii, but he predicts far lower (over 20%) for X360.



http://www.vgchartz.com/games/userreviewdisp.php?id=261

That is VGChartz LONGEST review. And it's NOT Cute Kitten DS

An estimate of an estimate. No wonder he's wrong so often. Meta-estimates can't possibly be reliable. ;)



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December is a 5 week NPD month. (November 30 - January 3) Given that, all of his initial predictions seem way low when compared to VGC data.



Oyvoyvoyv said:

I'm not sure what dates this December NPD is for, but it seems like he is pretty much equal to VGC on Ps3 and Wii, but he predicts far lower (over 20%) for X360.

 

VGC is often higher on 360 than NPD. It was quite some time ago, but I recall ioi explicitly stating that he feels NPD undertracks the platform.



"The worst part about these reviews is they are [subjective]--and their scores often depend on how drunk you got the media at a Street Fighter event."  — Mona Hamilton, Capcom Senior VP of Marketing
*Image indefinitely borrowed from BrainBoxLtd without his consent.

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WiiStation360 said:
December is a 5 week NPD month. (November 30 - January 3) Given that, all of his initial predictions seem way low when compared to VGC data.

 

 :O Okay

Well, VGC in that time-frame (missing 1 week)

Wii: 4M (so ~ 5M total? That would mean Pachter is 2M lower...)

X360: 2.1M (so 2.5M total? Would mean Pachter being 1.2M lower....)

Ps3: 0.9M (so 1.2M total? That would mean Pacher being 500K lower...)

 

I think you've got the wrong weeks.

 



http://www.vgchartz.com/games/userreviewdisp.php?id=261

That is VGChartz LONGEST review. And it's NOT Cute Kitten DS

Oyvoyvoyv said:
WiiStation360 said:
December is a 5 week NPD month. (November 30 - January 3) Given that, all of his initial predictions seem way low when compared to VGC data.

 

 :O Okay

Well, VGC in that time-frame (missing 1 week)

Wii: 4M (so ~ 5M total? That would mean Pachter is 2M lower...)

X360: 2.1M (so 2.5M total? Would mean Pachter being 1.2M lower....)

Ps3: 0.9M (so 1.2M total? That would mean Pacher being 500K lower...)

 

I think you've got the wrong weeks.

 

It could coorespond to these4 weeks, plus next week.

VGChartz Hardware data for the period 06th Dec 2008 to 27th Dec 2008:

Console Wii PS3 X360
America
3,162,172
740,675
1,611,184

In any case, Pachter looks it be low for all 3, based on VGC data.



WiiStation360 said:
Oyvoyvoyv said:
WiiStation360 said:
December is a 5 week NPD month. (November 30 - January 3) Given that, all of his initial predictions seem way low when compared to VGC data.

 

 :O Okay

Well, VGC in that time-frame (missing 1 week)

Wii: 4M (so ~ 5M total? That would mean Pachter is 2M lower...)

X360: 2.1M (so 2.5M total? Would mean Pachter being 1.2M lower....)

Ps3: 0.9M (so 1.2M total? That would mean Pacher being 500K lower...)

 

I think you've got the wrong weeks.

 

It could coorespond to these4 weeks, plus next week.

VGChartz Hardware data for the period 06th Dec 2008 to 27th Dec 2008:

Console Wii PS3 X360
America
3,162,172
740,675
1,611,184

In any case, Pachter looks it be low for all 3, based on VGC data.

 

 erm, that is all of NA divide it by 1.1 for so to get US.

I think- (which is just as good as a patcher prediction..lol)

Wii- 3.5 in US alone

360- 1.8 mil in Us

PS3- 800k in US



End of 2009 Predictions (Set, January 1st 2009)

Wii- 72 million   3rd Year Peak, better slate of releases

360- 37 million   Should trend down slightly after 3rd year peak

PS3- 29 million  Sales should pick up next year, 3rd year peak and price cut

wow i am still shocked that ps3 is selling so low.
sony needs to do something.



hello how are you.

How's GAF reacting to his predictions?

It's going to be an epic NPD if the Wii really did top 2.7 million.