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AE86 on 06 January 2009
shio said:
Final-Fan said:
shio, I really do want to know how you have games like Braid and Mirror's Edge in your list of PC EXCLUSIVE games.

2009 Exclusives.

 


....What...

 



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okr on 06 January 2009

Oh guys, why can't you stop? I see absolutely no interesting discussions about upcoming PC games in this thread. Just the usual silly fights of few PC fans vs. many console fans. Are these fights and the occasional system specs threads all VGChartz members can contribute to the PC forum?

Your own fault, Don Shiotte. You're fighting windmills again and I think you like these fights nearly as much as PC gaming...



Final-Fan on 06 January 2009
shio said:
Final-Fan said:
shio, I really do want to know how you have games like Braid and Mirror's Edge in your list of PC EXCLUSIVE games.
2009 Exclusives.

I suspected as much; I just wanted to let you hang yourself on your own rope. 

You see, while technically true from a certain perspective, this shows how completely insane your position is.  Was Bioshock a PS3 exclusive in 2008?  Was StarCraft a Nintendo 64 exclusive in 2000?  Were those games somehow no longer available on the platforms that had an earlier release? 

The answer any sane person would give to these questions is "No."  Your answer is "Yes."  That is what I wanted you to admit, so that everyone can see the naked truth, undiluted by obfuscation.  I sincerely thank you for your honesty. 

If you think you can defend your rationale for defining exclusives thusly, check my signature tag. 



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Khuutra on 06 January 2009
Final-Fan said:
shio said:
Final-Fan said:
shio, I really do want to know how you have games like Braid and Mirror's Edge in your list of PC EXCLUSIVE games.
2009 Exclusives.

I suspected as much; I just wanted to let you hang yourself on your own rope. 

You see, while technically true from a certain perspective, this shows how completely insane your position is.  Was Bioshock a PS3 exclusive in 2008?  Was StarCraft a Nintendo 64 exclusive in 2000?  Were those games somehow no longer available on the platforms that had an earlier release? 

The answer any sane person would give to these questions is "No."  Your answer is "Yes."  That is what I wanted you to admit, so that everyone can see the naked truth, undiluted by obfuscation.  I sincerely thank you for your honesty. 

If you think you can defend your rationale for defining exclusives thusly, feel free to rebut. 

So Ogre Battle was a Wii exclusive in 2008?

All right, 2008 was year of the Wii confirmed.



vlad321 on 06 January 2009
shio said:
Final-Fan said:
shio, I really do want to know how you have games like Braid and Mirror's Edge in your list of PC EXCLUSIVE games.

2009 Exclusives.

 

 

That's themost retarded thing I have heard on VGC, and that's a GREAT achievement considering the sheer amount of brain-dead users the site has....



Tag(thx fkusumot) - "Yet again I completely fail to see your point..."

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gamrReview's broken review scores: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4170835

 

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richardhutnik on 06 January 2009
vlad321 said:
shio said:
Final-Fan said:
shio, I really do want to know how you have games like Braid and Mirror's Edge in your list of PC EXCLUSIVE games.

2009 Exclusives.

 

 

That's the most retarded thing I have heard on VGC, and that's a GREAT achievement considering the sheer amount of brain-dead users the site has....

Ok, you managed to sum up what I would want to say better than I could of there.  

 



AE86 on 06 January 2009
vlad321 said:
shio said:
Final-Fan said:
shio, I really do want to know how you have games like Braid and Mirror's Edge in your list of PC EXCLUSIVE games.

2009 Exclusives.

 

 

That's themost retarded thing I have heard on VGC, and that's a GREAT achievement considering the sheer amount of brain-dead users the site has....

 

I agree, this is sig-worthy.



shio on 06 January 2009
vlad321 said:
shio said:
Final-Fan said:
shio, I really do want to know how you have games like Braid and Mirror's Edge in your list of PC EXCLUSIVE games.

2009 Exclusives.

 

 

That's themost retarded thing I have heard on VGC, and that's a GREAT achievement considering the sheer amount of brain-dead users the site has....

Is it? In the Xbox 360 Exclusives thread they even listed "timed exclusives"(that came in the same year) and PC/360 games as exclusives...

What is the point is making a list of game releases? Is it to inform other people, isn't it? There must be parameters defined for the list, or else one would have to just make a list of all PC games released. I chose to include only 2009 exclusives. Why? Because it is valid to compare with last year's PC releases, to compare with another platform's lineup in the same timeframe, etc...

Would you not count Braid right now as a valiant addition to Xbox 360's when in comparison with PS3 or PC? But Braid will still be multiplatform. If a platform only had multiplatform releases, would you not compare it's library vs Xpto console's library through the multiplatform games that Xpto's didn't have?

Really, what is the point in listing only exclusive games, if not for a comparison with other platforms? If one was only interested in listing PC games, it would simply list all games - multiplatform or not.

I said 2009 exclusives. Nothing more, nothing less.



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theRepublic on 06 January 2009

Then you should have said 2009 PC releases.

Not exclusives.



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twesterm on 06 January 2009
shio said:
vlad321 said:
shio said:
Final-Fan said:
shio, I really do want to know how you have games like Braid and Mirror's Edge in your list of PC EXCLUSIVE games.

2009 Exclusives.

 

 

That's themost retarded thing I have heard on VGC, and that's a GREAT achievement considering the sheer amount of brain-dead users the site has....

Is it? In the Xbox 360 Exclusives thread they even listed "timed exclusives"(that came in the same year) and PC/360 games as exclusives...

What is the point is making a list of game releases? Is it to inform other people, isn't it? There must be parameters defined for the list, or else one would have to just make a list of all PC games released. I chose to include only 2009 exclusives. Why? Because it is valid to compare with last year's PC releases, to compare with another platform's lineup in the same timeframe, etc...

Would you not count Braid right now as a valiant addition to Xbox 360's when in comparison with PS3 or PC? But Braid will still be multiplatform. If a platform only had multiplatform releases, would you not compare it's library vs Xpto console's library through the multiplatform games that Xpto's didn't have?

Really, what is the point in listing only exclusive games, if not for a comparison with other platforms? If one was only interested in listing PC games, it would simply list all games - multiplatform or not.

I said 2009 exclusives. Nothing more, nothing less.

 

Very simple question to answer and Braid is a great example!

Can I get Braid only for the 360 in 2008?  Yes.

Can I get Braid only for the PC in 2009 when it's released on the PC?  No, I can get it for the 360 and PC.

Is it exclusive then?  No, even though it's released only for the PC in 2009 I can still buy it for the 360.

Therefore, not a 2009 exclusive.

And why the hell is thread stickied?