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Staude on 04 January 2009
Million said:
Kantor said:
Yes, we know the PS3 has less memory. We've known this for a long time.

Now, Bad Company and Killzone 2 have destruction on the PS3, right? Did they have any problems?

 

NO IT DOESN'T...FFS

"

Just so you know that the PS3 has 512MB of RAM (256 for video and 256 for system). The Cell chip has 256MB of completely sharable RAM, the GPU has 256MB of dedicated RAM. Now the key here is what type of RAM it is.

The Playstation 3 has 256mb of GDDR3 at 700mhz  and 256Mb of XDR at 3.2ghz. So what exactly is XDR ram? Here are some of the highlights:

  • XDR makes PS3 super effiecient
  • XDR aids in faster cache mapping, both direct and indirect
  • XDR ram works by a pointer to pointer technology and needs very small buswidth for execution
  • XDR is not just faster than GDDR3 but it is much more efficient
  • XDR RAM works by breaking down data into several packets which prevents data loss and exceptions"

http://talkplaystation.com/ps3s-ram-and-rsx-explained/

This.

 

 



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Frankenstein on 04 January 2009

These guys are just trying to promote their game as the pinnacle of this generation.

I wouldn't listen to them and lmfao at Selnor's pathetic attempt to try and use this against the PS3.



selnor on 04 January 2009
Kantor said:
Yes, we know the PS3 has less memory. We've known this for a long time.

Now, Bad Company and Killzone 2 have destruction on the PS3, right? Did they have any problems?

 

 Just so you know, niether of the games you mention are even close to the destruction and physics engine in RFG. See below.



Million on 04 January 2009
Kantor said:
Million said:
Kantor said:
Yes, we know the PS3 has less memory. We've known this for a long time.

Now, Bad Company and Killzone 2 have destruction on the PS3, right? Did they have any problems?

 

NO IT DOESN'T...FFS

"

Just so you know that the PS3 has 512MB of RAM (256 for video and 256 for system). The Cell chip has 256MB of completely sharable RAM, the GPU has 256MB of dedicated RAM. Now the key here is what type of RAM it is.

The Playstation 3 has 256mb of GDDR3 at 700mhz  and 256Mb of XDR at 3.2ghz. So what exactly is XDR ram? Here are some of the highlights:

  • XDR makes PS3 super effiecient
  • XDR aids in faster cache mapping, both direct and indirect
  • XDR ram works by a pointer to pointer technology and needs very small buswidth for execution
  • XDR is not just faster than GDDR3 but it is much more efficient
  • XDR RAM works by breaking down data into several packets which prevents data loss and exceptions"

http://talkplaystation.com/ps3s-ram-and-rsx-explained/

So what you're saying is that the people who make Red Faction are basically useless.

That's a possibility, right? If Guerilla can do it, why can't Volition?

And I said the PS3 has less RAM, not worse RAM.

 

woops

 




selnor on 04 January 2009
Frankenstein said:
These guys are just trying to promote their game as the pinnacle of this generation.

I wouldn't listen to them and lmfao at Selnor's pathetic attempt to try and use this against the PS3.

Your either to stupid to read, or you just enjoy taking the P*SS. I found relevant news by accident, because I was looking for pics to use in the thread which would fit what you said. But it was actually against the 360. Go have a read mate, it's in the M$ forum. Where your beloved PS3 friends tried to make out the 360 was inferior. I didnt try and do anything, but tell people who read this site the actual full truth, not half truth.

 



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PS360ForTheWin on 04 January 2009

really? which version will be best then PS3 or 360?



Frankenstein on 04 January 2009
selnor said:
Frankenstein said:
These guys are just trying to promote their game as the pinnacle of this generation.

I wouldn't listen to them and lmfao at Selnor's pathetic attempt to try and use this against the PS3.

Your either to stupid to read, or you just enjoy taking the P*SS. I found relevant news by accident, because I was looking for pics to use in the thread which would fit what you said. But it was actually against the 360. Go have a read mate, it's in the M$ forum. Where your beloved PS3 friends tried to make out the 360 was inferior. I didnt try and do anything, but tell people who read this site the actual full truth, not half truth.

 

You need to calm down.

If you actually read what Million said earlier in this thread you would know that RF's developers were spouting a load of crap about maxing out the PS3.

And that note at the end of your first post about having problems with the PS3's memory was a pathetic attempt.

 



Kantor on 04 January 2009

They struggled with the PS3 version because it's unfamiliar territory. As soon as they got somebody from Sony in to tell them how the hell they're meant to be programming, they managed to make all of the versions equal. This says nothing about the PS3's technical limits, and he's probably exaggerating.

What's your point?



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selnor on 04 January 2009
Frankenstein said:
selnor said:
Frankenstein said:
These guys are just trying to promote their game as the pinnacle of this generation.

I wouldn't listen to them and lmfao at Selnor's pathetic attempt to try and use this against the PS3.

Your either to stupid to read, or you just enjoy taking the P*SS. I found relevant news by accident, because I was looking for pics to use in the thread which would fit what you said. But it was actually against the 360. Go have a read mate, it's in the M$ forum. Where your beloved PS3 friends tried to make out the 360 was inferior. I didnt try and do anything, but tell people who read this site the actual full truth, not half truth.

 

You need to calm down.

I saw that other thread. There was a legimate discussion about maxing out systems but then you literally bounded in and started with your fanboyish rant.

If you actually read what Million said earlier in this thread you would know that RF's developers would spouting a load of crap about maxing out the PS3.

 

Did you see who created the thread? He always posts threads against 360. And there is plenty of comments in the other thread about the inferiority. All from missinformation. When the reality is the devs state they had massive problems with PS3 memory. There actual words were "the lack of additional memory causes an additional headache to PS3." Meaning the memory in 360 is better. Hence that has a direct impact on the other threads discussion to do with memory.

 



selnor on 04 January 2009
Million said:
Kantor said:
Million said:
Kantor said:
Yes, we know the PS3 has less memory. We've known this for a long time.

Now, Bad Company and Killzone 2 have destruction on the PS3, right? Did they have any problems?

 

NO IT DOESN'T...FFS

"

Just so you know that the PS3 has 512MB of RAM (256 for video and 256 for system). The Cell chip has 256MB of completely sharable RAM, the GPU has 256MB of dedicated RAM. Now the key here is what type of RAM it is.

The Playstation 3 has 256mb of GDDR3 at 700mhz  and 256Mb of XDR at 3.2ghz. So what exactly is XDR ram? Here are some of the highlights:

  • XDR makes PS3 super effiecient
  • XDR aids in faster cache mapping, both direct and indirect
  • XDR ram works by a pointer to pointer technology and needs very small buswidth for execution
  • XDR is not just faster than GDDR3 but it is much more efficient
  • XDR RAM works by breaking down data into several packets which prevents data loss and exceptions"

http://talkplaystation.com/ps3s-ram-and-rsx-explained/

So what you're saying is that the people who make Red Faction are basically useless.

That's a possibility, right? If Guerilla can do it, why can't Volition?

And I said the PS3 has less RAM, not worse RAM.

 

woops

 

This is not a stab @ million. I find that million as actually a good poster.:)

But it's funny that a developer who was praised for the original Red Faction in the technology department can be dismissed so easily now.